Who's had gelling with ULSD???

[Champane Flight]

Same

Your farm fuels anymore are the same ULSD with dye, all the distributers I know in my area have done away with LSD and HSD, too much danger in contaminating ULSD, very large fine involved. Some have discontinued red diesel all together because of IRS rules changes. From what I have heard from our local IRS man, they are going to dump dyed fuels shortly. About time.

 

[Wayne M.]

No problems here. I'm still running LSD.

I'm starting to realize how lucky I am. I think it is a local issue, and how the terminal treats the fuel. At my job, we have been running ULSD for a couple of years and we have never had any gelling (or any other) problems with that fuel, including this season. It's been pretty cold around here. Single digit mornings all week.

I guess New Jersey is one of those 2010 states where you see both fuels, and on the NJTP which is Sunoco, it's still LSD and what I use.

 

[Alphacowboy]

Ok ok, I am about to eat crow here... . I think I may have to side with the ULSD causing issues. I guess I got bit by it this morning. I had just filled up a couple days ago and the truck hadnt been driven since Thursday. She started hard today, and my fuel pressure gauge pegged out as far as I have ever seen it. I could tell the fuel was on the verge of gellin just by the sound of the pump and how rough it was running. Luckly, after idling for a few minutes and finally making enough RPMs and firing off the 3cyl idle, it started running ok.



I totally forgot that the last tank of fuel I filled up with I had NOT added additive to the tank when I filled up... BUT, I forgot I had run out of fuel 20ft from the fuel pump last time I filled up (fuel gauge is incorrect) and had filled the filter (Large Screw on Napa Fuel filter inline under the drivers seat) up with fuel additive to get me to the pump. That must have been enough additive to keep that tank from gelling or clouding up to much.



So, I stand corrected, my fuel HAD BEEN treated with additive so my points previously stated are moot. From now on, I am DEFINATELY going to add fuel additive!

 

[WDaniels]

FFulch,

Just got around to reading the post and haven't finished it all yet but wanted to comment. We just got the USLD in Nov here and I always use one third of a quart of Diesel Power Service regardless on temps and type of fuel. When we had the -45, the truck didn't skip a beat. The tires were square when it sat for a while but I had no problems with the fuel.

Up here as of yet, they are not changing to USLD for off road diesel. Can still get #1 and #2 diesel that isn't de-sulfated.

WD

 

[2broke2smoke]

my computer is down and i can only log on at work but here is an update ...



neighboring school system (upshur County,WV) cancelled school because 15 buses started their routes only to have them shut down due to gelling ... that was on Wed of last week ... approx 3 degrees f



last monday (-9) a good freind said that the Halliburton shop in Weston, WV was pretty much shut down to gelling ...



his 6. 0 stroke company truck ran maybe 3 miles then died ... no additives in any trucks prior to the gelling ...

 

[steved]

Although I have not seen the real forecast, they are saying we will be seeing another blast of cold temps this week... after the 12 inches of snow we are supposed to get tomorrow night... !



Here we go again...



steved

 

[LRundberget]

No gelling on this truck. Even sat twice for 3 to 4 days cold soaking and no additives in January. All the pumps have ULSD stickers on them now since last November. Filter was changed out in October just before the ULSD hit the pumps.

 

[Silver Bullet Ram]

They need to do like when they did away with leaded gas, keep it around for awhile until everyone has a vehicle that can run on this stuff.

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

I don't think it's about a vehicle that will run on this stuff as much as it is making sure they know how to make the stuff properly! Some area's have big issues while others don't. My truck runs perfectly fine but if I didn't have a pressure gauge I wouldn't know there is an issue, the wifes 06 also is fine but I don't have a gauge on that one.

 

[CochranD]

Ulsd

My 97 outfit has been in a unheated garage, untouched for the last 7 weeks. I started it today,cycled the grids twice and it fired rite up. Ive been buying the Amsoil Cold Flow Improver. Been using it in a NewHolland SkidSteer and several large JD farm tractors.

All of Tractors run on high sulfer. I think that may be helpful.

 

[FFutch]

UPDATE... I'm getting some kerosene delivered this week to mix in my storage tank. 700 gallons in approx. 5000 gallons of what was supposed to be #1. Another change this year is they dug my underground tank up and I now have an above ground. The guys have also complained that the fuel is slow coming out of the pump. The pump guy says that this is due to having a gasoline filter instead of a diesel (less microns). I'm sure the fuel is staying colder in the tank. The D-max is still throwing a low rail pr. code at 20 deg. I will let you know if the extra kero takes care of the problem... Doug

 

[JKinney]

Im still having no problems here in maine, and my neighbor drives a school bus, and stated the bus fleet has had no problems.

 

[Jeff Knight]

Has anyone tried the Lucas Extreme fuel additive? If so, how do you like it? Jeff

 

[mec625]

Southern Ontario Canada

My ride is a 2007 5. 9 and no problems at all with the fuel related problems truck run fine

 

[JoeBioDiesel]

You can add me to the lis of people that gelled. My truck has been OK as long as I keep Diesel 911 in it when it hits single digits, but my tractor gelled today when snowblowing the neighbor's driveway. I had to add more 911 and heat the filter with a propane torch. It ran good for the rest of the night.

Joe

 

[DWeiler]

Might be the fuel supplier/manufacture ---up here we are no stranger to the real cold temps,minus -30C to-40C can happen for weeks on end and with the wind chill it can easily be worse. I have been driving a 01Ford 7. 3 cubes for about 10 years and only once did the fuel start to gel on me,about 8 years ago----it was -61 with the wind chill,i added some antigel and all was good. Maybe some bad diesel but as per the bosses barking/cost cutting we no longer run any additive in our trucks for at lease the last couple of years. Never have had a problem,but i do buy my fuel from the same station(100 gallons a week)Mohawk/HUSKY gas station and its from Husky Oil company. This truck has just hit 200 000 miles on the original glow plugs/injectors(it is starting to get tired though) and fires fine even on the real cold morning when plugged in---maybe i got a good FORD ---maybe they built a good one this time :-laf . ---PS--FWIW i do remember reading an article in a Canadian magazine/newspaper that a independent lab tested all the diesel fuel that was available to consumers in Canada and the Husky Oil diesel fuel came out on top. Maybe this is BS but from someone who drives for a living--- this is what works for me up here and has worked well----so far. My 2 cents. DW

 

[GOT-Torque]

Anyone heard of running 1% gasoline with your diesel to prevent gelling? My relatives use this on all their tractors/offroad equipment as well as their semi's and claim to never have any trouble with gelling. They have been doing it for about 4 years after they read in a service manual for Caterpillar to do this when cold out to prevent gelling.



Thoughts?

 

[rbattelle]

Anyone heard of running 1% gasoline with your diesel to prevent gelling? My relatives use this on all their tractors/offroad equipment as well as their semi's and claim to never have any trouble with gelling. They have been doing it for about 4 years after they read in a service manual for Caterpillar to do this when cold out to prevent gelling.



Thoughts?

I wouldn't do this. Ever.



Hypothetically, however, it might not hurt a 1st gen.



2nd or 3rd gen? No way. Gasoline has very little lubricity, so fuel-lubricated parts are going to wear out quick.



Ryan

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

My friend had an Izusu pickup in the 80's???? Right in the owners manual was info about adding up to 50% gasoline to the diesel to prevent gelling. I've never done it in my truck but he said it worked good.

 

[Champane Flight]

Never........gasoline.......

It only takes one gallon of gasoline to contaminate one hundred gallons of diesel. . It will drop your flash point to atmospheric, and dissipate lubricity, not to mention detonation. If you are having gelling problems, the cheapest, surest way to get back on the road is to add #1 diesel, change your filters, and put your truck in a heated area. Additives are fine for preventive measures, and emergencys, but long term, a fifty/fifty mix of #1 and #2 will take you down to -35 to -45 in most cases. The boys way up north run straight #1 in the winter, with temps down to -50, and lower.



I have never heard of any diesel engine manufacter who recomended gasoline in diesel. I have been around diesels all my life, driving, wrenching, and studying. I'm over a half a century old, I have worked in the fuel buisness for the last twenty five years.