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Clinton

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Toyo has recently released their M55 in the 255/85R16D (my favorite size). I'm seriously considering a set. These are 8 or 10 ply commercial tires and are not cheap. My driving is all around, with unmaintained gravel being the biggest part of the off-road component. It seems I drive too much pavement for a mud tread and too much off road for a street tread. I haven't been especially happy with the wear on the 235/85 BFG ATs I've had this last set. I'm hoping to get longer life out of a set of tires and too cheap to go with the 19. 5" wheels. I was wondering if anybody had any comments before I made the investment. Thanks.
 
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You should be real happy with them. I ran three sets when I was hotshotting stock trailers. After trying three other brands/sizes these were the first to past 30K. I got between 50 - 70K out these tires under the same extreme pulling conditions.



I always ran the 235/85R16E. I needed the load capacity and the taller tire. No 265 size available at the time.



I looked at 265/75R16E today. Taller is good, not sure I like the width.



The 255/85R would be a nice size.



This tire wears very well.



jjw

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Thanks. From what I can tell so far, the 255/85 is an 8-ply D rated tire, but still is considered commercial grade. Where the 235, 245, and 265 are all 10-ply E rated tires. I'm thinking the tall sidewall may have something to do with that versus the other sizes. I run heavy, but don't tow often. I'm still trying to find a good source as my local Toyo dealer wants $210 each. 1010tires.com has them for $143, but shipping from BC to Tennessee is kinda high (still cheaper than local). What can you do?
 
My local Toyo dealer wants $178 per tire out the door for the M-55's 235/85/16 E. I've been trying to decide between these and the Michelin XPS Tractions. They both cost about the same and everyone has the same good things to say about them both.
 
I have 3 friends running M-55's in 255/85 on their CTD's. All are pleased with performance but it's too early to tell about life. One is at about 25,000 and has close to half the tread left.

-Scott
 
Thanks for the replys. I ended up ordering from 1010tires.com and had the 255/85s mounted last week. I couldn't be happier so far. I also went with Counteract balancing beads and filtered valve cores. I'm enjoying a very smooth ride.



Hey Illflem, tell me a little more about siping, please. Do they do that with a machine that the tire gets mounted on or a hand-held unit? How big is the sipe? Do they sipe across the entire tread area? How much should a sipe job cost? I'm having a tough time finding anybody around my area that sipes.
 
Follow these links for everything you need to know about siping

http://www.4x4review.com/tech/siping.asp

http://www.can4x4.com/articles/siping.html

Here's an article on doing it yourself, I know my hand would get tired after the first tire though

http://char.tuiasi.ro/vw/reality/rogerb/4x4/CheapTricks/TireSiping.html

I paid $10 per new tire but think they might charge more for a used tire because they have to remove any rocks to keep from damaging their machine.

Besides better bad weather traction your tires will run substantially cooler increasing their life. My siped M-55s are already the longest lived tires I've owned and they look to have many more miles to go.

Counteract was a good choice!
 
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Originally posted by illflem

My M-55s look like they're going to make 100k.

Get them siped, well worth it.



Bill do the M-55's feel like they weigh more than the OEM Goodyear or Michelin tires? Does the weight of the tire help them last longer? What do you think makes the M-55's last so long? Seems like with tires that you get what you pay for. Cheap tires don't last long!!!
 
Thanks Bill. I've been sitting here at work calling local tire shops for siping services and I'm getting the same response down the line: 'what?... never heard of that. ' I may need to study that DIY link some more! That guy says 15 minutes per tire, he must have some big forearms. If I do the M55s myself do you think I should do the entire tread or just the center blocks?
 
Pit Bull, I've always avoided Goodyear and Michelin so I can't help you there. Have no idea what makes them last so long but the extra cost certainly pays for itself in the long run.



Clinton, my M55s were siped all the way across and haven't chunked out. I haven't used them on anything rougher than a Forest Service road though.
 
Worked in a hard rock mine for 9 years. We tried every tire possible on our shift and plant p/u's. The M55 was by far the best tire, Very cut resistant, good traction, and they seemed to go on for ever. And they were thoroughly tested by dif drivers, vehicle conditions, -40 degree winter temps and low pressures, I'm sure you will be please, a very good gravel tire. (I don't run them as I do alot of highway driving) Cheer's
 
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