Why I steal Microsoft software

[Mike Ellis]

Steve,

You were a Commodore programmer too eh? Boy I used to have a ball surfing around the phone nets to the bazillion C-64, Atari, Tandy, and Apple-II bulletin boards. Were you one of the guys that worked on C-Net software?

 

[rkressg]

Originally posted by Morphious

alot of the speed/size are trade offs. I've written alot of code that was very time crutial in the milla second range in C++. I can hack out a User interface in VB quick and efficiently, but for real time sensitive apps, it's C++ all the way. I started writing code on an old 8086, and still have a copy of Turbo Pascal and Turbo C floating around my book collection. I've written code in Pascal, C, Posix C, C++, VC++, Basic, Visual Basic 3 and up, Delphi, Jasmine's ODQL (Object Data Query Language), SQL, PL-SQL, TSQL, many different scripting languages and they all had a place for what was best at the time. I've done alot of machine front ends for touch screen operations providing the user live feedback to realtime events..... I've never seen a computer fast enough for all I wanted to do on a frontend in those types of situations. Course, I'm the type of person that currently has 3 chat programs running, two email programs, 4 development projects open and running, SQL Server, IIS, BEA Weblogics, Winamp, and 4 or 5 browser windows open all at the same time.



I've worked on Sun's Solaris, HPUX, Novell, all flavors of windows, Linux, and some truly custom OS's like Steeple Chase's realtime OS.



Do I think Microsoft's os's are way over prices, damned right I do. they have about a 60% or greater profit margin on the OS and a 70% profit margin on thier office product. I'm not sure what the profit margin is on thier Development tools, but those aren't cheap either.





Some of the biggest problems with bloat in software today is the idiots they have writting it. I've worked at places that had people that hacked out code like that, and I'm the one that got to clean up thier 10,000 line functions into nice tidy quick apps. I like OO programming, but I code in a mixture of it and stardard coding, because OO is not the best for all instances.





Morph.

What?

No C#:{



You have to try it out, the .net version is awsome, but if you liked C++ in Visual Studio 6. ? do not use the .net version. The compiler sucks :{ I still have not figured it out what is wrong with it. I think the Phd. software engineers from CMU wrote the C# construct language and the high school drop outs wrote the .net version of C++



BTW, Microsift has allowed me to get a job. There are many initals after my name that I would not have if Microsoft did not exist. More importantly, many networks still work with Microsoft products as their server backbone. Yes, they have lost a lot to competition, like Sun and Unix, they are not going away soon. If it was not for poorly written code, similar to Winblows, there would not be the demand for faster and faster computers to run the sloppier and sloppier code.

Face it, Microsoft is single handedly completely changed the our technology world. Microsoft's Windows 95 was the thing that started it all. It was the first mega popular GUI interface OS (note: I said mega popular)

If it was not for Microsoft, chances are, you would not be typing this rant about them on the Internet. The Internet would still be nothing more than a data communication network connecting major universities. We would even be using Fido as the communication protocol for those of us were able to connect to the much smaller TDR.

Sorry for ranting, there is too much to say and not room to say it.

Please destroy what I said and I mean what I said about C#

-Rich

 

[Morphious]

I forgot C# in the long list..... yes, I've worked with the C# language writing some custom controls for the project I'm currently working on, and have use the version 7 of C++, both managed and straight C++.



Morph.

 

[Philsram]

Steal microsoft software

I do not condone stealling of anything but on this issue I might turn my head the other way. I am the happy owner of 4 computers in this house all with windows 2000. I purchased an upgrade to windows xp home and loaded it into the main computer in the office. The I proceeded to load it in my computer. The software loaded great and I was able to use xp for about 3 start ups. After that my computer wouldn't even get to the any page to unistall it. Well MR Gates you finally crossed the line with that one. Any company worth their salt would have built in a copy protect error but you didn't. Anyways I called mircosoft and they told me that it was for one computer only and I had to purchase another copy to free mine up. That is way wrong!!!!!!!!!!! So for those of you who feel sorry for microsoft... ... ... ... . Don't. pw