Why would anyone buy a new 2006 TD?

[FATCAT]

... The catcher with the 6. 7L is it's ability to "sense" if the emissions equipment is there just like the Duramax LLY engine can.

Merrick

There is always someone ready with the "better mouse trap" i. e. some way around the new technology. I'm sure that the new garbage exhaust systems will be "replaced" by enterprising people no later than 6 to 9 months after the introduction of the new engine. The trick will be to keep the costs to do so out of the stratisphere.



Also ... for the enterprising people out there ... there will be a big business in Intake Manifold cleanings for the new trucks. They will get messy fast and kill performance quickly. Or better yet, EGR bypass modifications.



I would hope there are people already looking into this.



For me, the biggest complaint is that Dodge does not make a truck big enought for my tastes. Until there is a 19. 5K GVW model C. C. I can't see purchasing anything from Dodge in the near future ... and my 97 ain't get'en any younger.

 

[BHolm]

For me, the biggest complaint is that Dodge does not make a truck big enought for my tastes. Until there is a 19. 5K GVW model C. C. I can't see purchasing anything from Dodge in the near future ... and my 97 ain't get'en any younger.

What kind of '97 do you have? 19. 5k gvw is a medium duty truck, I don't think there is a pick-up with that kind of capacity. What is a Ford F550?. The current trucks do however exceed that in combined gvwr, meaning with a trailer.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

the 07 will not be a 5. 9 mid year( 07. 5 )they will not pass the sniffer test. then they will make the change because the law says so. the 68rfe goes online in oct with around 200units daily till it ramps up volume around jan 1st. remember the new emmisions laws take effect jan 1, not when the 07 comes out.

That very well could be BRayls, we'll certainly find out soon enough

 

[CUMMINZ]

My new 2006 CTD 3500 IMO is the best truck Dodge has ever built... .....



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[JVantreese]

Big brother is watching more closely in 07.

Through model year 06 you get your flash updates delivered via the internet to the techs hand held unit and dumped into your on board memory. With the 07 system your tech connects your truck directly to DC via the internet. Can you see information being retrieved about driving habits and any chips or box that has been installed? Just my speculation but I think a few more warrantees may be canceled.

 

[Bekim]

More emissions equipment=MANY MORE PROBLEMS with function, performance, upgrades, and compliance. I'll take the 2006 with a "troublesome??" transmission anytime!!
Mike
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[CUMMINZ]

At this point I have seen nothing but super good out of my 2006 48re. It mixes the gears much better than my 2004. 5 :-laf

 

[JHardwick]

You do realize the 6. 7 isn't a stroked 5. 9 like the Euro one is, the US spec one has a larger bore and shorter stroke than the Euro 6. 7. The US one is an all-new engine.

We somehow got on the subject of Fords new motor being a stroked 6. 0, and she said "what do you think the 6. 7 is?" As long as the same block is used its considered stroked.

 

[Hohn]

I know I have no right to say anything here. First Dodge,first diesel,coming from chevy gassers. I ALWAYS,wanted an all mighty Dodge diesel,and when i fianlly got the money and heard about the new motor(cummins or not)and trans its still going to take some time to get all the bugs out,plus all the emissions crap. I just think its funny that the 5. 9 has been the greatest thing,but suddenly now its old news. And no I didnt make my descion with out doing some research. I just hope everyone that waits for the 6. 7 is as happy as they think they will be,I know I will be with my old 5. 9

Bull. You are a paid member and have as much right to say anything as any other member does.

2 posts or 2000posts makes no difference.

 

[Chopperguy]

Seems like I may be in the minority but I really like the redesigned headlights. This is my first CTD and I'm more impressed each time I drive it! I like the 48re, crisp shifting and I really like the tow/haul mode for towing. Tech at the dealership said they have only replaced one 48re and it was due to a factory defect, other than that no problems. I also did a lot of research into this and other brands, all seem to have there ups and downs. This is my third Dodge and by far the best!

 

[betterthanstock]

I just found out the 07 Freightliners will cost an extra $25,000. 00 due to emissions (they said that's the best they could do). They 've had to modify the frames and the cabs to accomodate the larger engines, and the extra plumbing. So to justify the higher cost they are adding more horsepower, and a few bells and wistles. See my post #25 above to get a picture of the emissions stuff, and yes they will get the UREA. Now, I would not be surprised if the Rams will "only" cost an extra 5-6000 more, especially with the new transmission and other gimmicks.

 

[FATCAT]

What kind of '97 do you have? 19. 5k gvw is a medium duty truck, I don't think there is a pick-up with that kind of capacity. What is a Ford F550?. The current trucks do however exceed that in combined gvwr, meaning with a trailer.

My '97 is just a 2500, but if I were to buy another truck, the F550 would be what I'm looking for (minus the powerstroke and automatic transmission).

I have been (as well as other people), waiting for years for Dodge to have a 5500 truck with the GVW of 19,500 (same as the F550).

Then I can ditch my dump trailer (install a dump body on the new truck) and upgrade my flatbed.



I have to admit, my eye does wonder to the Sterling Acterra Crew Cab or a Freightliner M2 Crew Cab with dump body in sub-26000K class. A not-to-used one would be about the same as a brand new Dodge '08/'09 3500 or 5500 and have the option of a nice 7 speed transmission.

 

[FATCAT]

I just found out the 07 Freightliners will cost an extra $25,000. 00 due to emissions (they said that's the best they could do)...

That is insane ... there will be a lot of unsold inventory in the US, and a lot of unemployed heavy truck manufacturing employees ... 10's of thousands.



This to me would justifying marching in the EPA offices and dragging these Nazi's out in the streets with ropes arounds their necks ... then disembowle them.



THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH POLUTION IN THIS COUNTRY ... PERIOD! These new regulations have nothing to do with cleaning up already clean air and everything to do with destroying our capitalist free system. The EPA "people" should be considered and treated as treasonus enemies of this country.

 

[ZHutton]

I recently went looking for a new dodge because of the coming changes. I wound up with a 2003 the dealer had taken in trade because it fit my needs better than anything they could find on nearby dealer's lots.



I am lucky in that the current dodge diesel can easily do what I want to do. I really don't need the dually, but I won't complain about the extra capacity either.



If I knew I would need a truck in the next year or so and I knew I did not need the extra capacity the 4500 and 5500 will bring to the table I would go ahead and get what I know works.



I personally feel there will be some teething problems with the low sulfer fuel and all the new emissions stuff coming. I hope I am wrong, but I personally can not afford to have my one vehicle going to the dealer for warranty work all the time.



I hope to run this truck a very long time. By the time I have to move up to the more complicated trucks everything should have been figured out and I will be able to feel comfortable spending that amount of money on the truck.



Until I feel comfortable spending that amount of money on the truck, my new to me 2003 h. o. gets rebuilt if something ever wears out.

 

[mlewis73]

Just wandering why anyone would purchase a 2006 Cummins turbo diesel when in 2007 they will come out with the new 6. 7L replacement? Especially for all the automatic guys, why buy the troublesome 48RE when next year you will most likely be able to get the Assign 6-speed auto? Just want to hear your reasons for not waiting. I really was not considering a new truck, but I think I would be real interested in the 2007 model.

Are you nuts?!?!?!?



That's like asking why would anyone have bought a 7. 3L Ford diesel in 2003 when the brand new, more powerful 6. 0 came out. By the way, the 6. 0 is one reason I'm NOT buying a Ford. They are trouble.



There is an impression that the 6. 7 will have teething pains. I'm old school, and prefer something proven like the 5. 9 to a new 6. 7. Why pay more money in '07 for an engine that does not have the proven track record of the 5. 9? The 5. 9 has MORE THAN ENOUGH power in stock form for most folks--much better than the '91 F-350 that it will be replacing in my case.



Bottom line from my perspective: get the 5. 9 and 6-speed manual. After 2 automatic transmission rebuilds in 2 years in 2 separate vehicles (not driven hard), I'll never own another automatic. I don't care how good a reputation it has. They are too expensive to operate. $7000 in rebuild costs in 2 years is my proof.

 

[Forrest Nearing]

see my previous post about the "new" 24v truck vs. the old 12v truck...



the 3rd gens have proven themselves, but I certainly wouldn't have bought an '03 as soon as they came out...



I'd give the next gen a year or two before I'd actually hang my hat on one.

 

[bzingre]

I bought one of the 03s in August of 02. I've had a reflash, coolant hose, power steering hose, u-joints, and an alternator bracket in 70K miles. I don't think that's too bad...

 

[MMcdonough]

DISCLAIMER - I do work for Cummins Inc, but have no direct involvement with engine design, new product rollouts, etc.



I think everyone needs to realize that Cummins has 30 BILLION miles of cooled EGR experience! see http://www.cummins.com/cmi/content.jsp?siteId=1&langId=1033&dataId=980&newsInfo=true&menuId=4



This doesn't mean that the 6. 7L wont have any issues. However, these emissions technologies have been used extensively, which should greatly improve initial product reliability in the Dodge truck application. On a side note, Cummins signed a consent decree with the EPA in 1998. In this agreement, Cummins committed to meeting upcoming emissions regulations on an accelerated schedule. This meant that Cummins was delivering Tier 3 compliant engines in 2005, years ahead of the original EPA requirements.