Won't start

[HCanales]

Got in my truck today and I went to start it, "nothing" it just made a click under the hood. I still have power and the fuel pump still runs . Their appears to be no burnt wires anywhere and the batteries are fully charged.

Any help would be awsome thanks in advance.

HCanales



ps. Is it possible to pull start it?

 

[p-Bar]

load test the batteries.

 

[amsoilman]

Got in my truck today and I went to start it, "nothing" it just made a click under the hood. I still have power and the fuel pump still runs . Their appears to be no burnt wires anywhere and the batteries are fully charged.

Any help would be awsome thanks in advance.

HCanales



ps. Is it possible to pull start it?

Hector,

Take off the battery leads and clean the terminals... ... ... ... ... ... . both batteries, then see if that helps.



Wayne

amsoilman

 

[HCanales]

Thanks Wayne, I will try that. They do appear to be pretty clean and tight though, but looks can be deceiving.





HCanales

 

[DavidC]

Starter Contacts?. Some have given the starter a rap with a hammer and it has started. If this happens it is usually a sign the contacts need to be replaced.



Dave

 

[HCanales]

Well, I messed with the battery cables, I tapped on the starter with a hammer, I hooked up a starter charger(200 starting amps), and I swaped out different relays in the fuze box and nothing. What else can it be? The dome lights don't even dim when I put the key in the start position, the simple fact is my starter is not getting any juice, not even a little bit. All I remember is I heard a click under the hood and I know it wasn't the battery because I still had full power.



I don't know

HCanales

 

[HCanales]

Hopefully this is something simple and I going way too deep into it.

 

[ScottLewis]

1-) Yeah, you could pull start it since you have a manual transmission. I've even pull started Caterpiller tractors. It's hard on the clutch though and doesn't resolve your starter issue.



2-) since you've replaced the relay, the likely culprit is starter contacts. Do a search and you'll learn that they go bad, sometimes with much more serious consequences like fusing together and continuing to run after engine has started.



3-) Did you install a clutch lockout when the transmission conversion was done?



The following is a cut and paste from the manual:



STARTER FAILS TO ENGAGE.



CAUSE:

1. Battery discharged or

faulty.

2. Starting circuit wiring

faulty.

3. Starter relay faulty.

4. Ignition switch faulty.

5. Park/Neutral position

switch (automatic

transmission) faulty or

misadjusted.

6. Clutch pedal position

switch (manual

transmission) faulty.

7. Starter solenoid faulty.

8. Starter assembly faulty.

CORRECTION:

1. Battery. Charge or replace the battery, if required.

2. See Cold Cranking Test in the Diagnosis and Testing

section of this group. Test and repair the starter feed

and/or control circuits, if required.

3. See Relay Test in the Diagnosis and Testing section

of this group. Replace the starter relay, if required.

4. See Ignition Switch Test in the Diagnosis and Testing

section of this group. Replace the ignition switch, if

required.

5. See Park/Neutral Position Switch Test in the

Diagnosis and Testing section of this group. Replace

the park/neutral position switch, if required.

6. See Clutch Pedal Position Switch Test in the

Diagnosis and Testing section of this group. Replace

the clutch pedal position switch, if required.

7. See Solenoid Test in the Diagnosis and Testing

section of this group. Replace the starter assembly, if

required.

8. If all other starting system components and circuits

test OK, replace the starter assembly.

 

[HCanales]

Thanks danavilla, #2 on your solution I did have happen to my 98 12v that starter would not shut off. On my 04 the trans is a 6spd and that wasn't a conversion. I'm going to try some of your other solutions, thanks.

 

[HCanales]

Correction its not an 04 it's an 03. I always for some reason keep thinking it's an 04.

 

[ScottLewis]

You didn't indicate which truck wouldn't start so I sent the info from my '98 manual. Should be valid on your '03 though. If you still hear a "click" when you try to start, the relay is activating. Doesn't assure that contacts inside are connecting though. Can you hear a click in the area of the starter? If yes then the solenoid is probably activating, although once again, doesn't mean contacts are good.



Some good info at Larry B's website, http://www.fostertruck.com/dodge/default.htm





Dan

 

[SP Diesel]

Check your battery voltage. If the voltage is below a certain point the ECU won't let the starter crank. I forget the voltage value, but we have seen this happen.

 

[HCanales]

Shouldn't it start with a battery charger in start mode which is 200 amps? I tell you it does nothing not even a click. Is their a place where I can run a jump wire to test the starter?

 

[rbattelle]

Do you have the Sentry Key security system?



I'd use a regular multimeter to check for voltage at the starter when the key is turned to "start".



Ryan

 

[HCanales]

Do you have the Sentry Key security system?



I'd use a regular multimeter to check for voltage at the starter when the key is turned to "start".



Ryan

That something, whats the Sentry Key security system, is it the TRW remote entry?

 

[rbattelle]

The Sentry Key system disables the starter if you're not using the special security key. I don't have it, so I don't have a clue what it looks like or how to identify one. Maybe someone who has one will chime in here.



If you have it, the key could have been damaged preventing the truck from starting just as you describe. What do you mean by "TRW"? Do you mean the automotive supplier TRW? Or is there another aftermarket remote entry company called TRW?



Ryan

 

[HCanales]

I have some kind of security system but my key just looks like a key with no chip inside. Also my security light goes off after two seconds. I hope that my vehicle is not immobilized because of security issues. If so then I bought my truck with the wrong keys and I need the Sentry Keys.

Thank you!

 

[HCanales]

I have confirmed that my ignition switch and clutch switch are good. Also the relays in the fuze box are clicking. Next, where is my solinoid or solinoids for my starter located?



Thanks in advance.

HCanales

 

[MFalkinham]

The Sentry key system doesn't disable the starter motor. The engine will still turn over using a standard key, but it won't start/run.

 

[rbattelle]

Attached is a picture of the starter relay location in the fuseblock. Hopefully I've shown enough of the block for you to recognize where it is. Pull it and test it for functionality.



I think the solenoid is mounted directly to the starter. I think it's the big cylinder that sits atop the motor (I guess technically that's the Bendix drive, but I thought it also housed the solenoid).



Ryan