WOW! Check this out

[South Bend Clutch]

A friend of mine sent me a link to this company. This system would be a definite help to all the trucks equipped with Double Disc clutches. This system will reduce the drivetrain noise caused by the non-dampened clutch discs. Oo.





http://www.fluidampr.com/perf_diesel.htm



Peter

 

[JCleary]

Pardon my ignorance, but why will it help? Is it a dampener that mounts on the front of the crank, or something different altogether?

 

[South Bend Clutch]

Yes they do mount on the front of the crank. Call them and talk to a guy by the name of Fred. He can explain it better then I.



(716) 592-1000



Peter

 

[nickleinonen]

are they bonded type like we have now, or a 2 piece [inside/outside] with the silicon fluid coupling [i think that is what they mean by internal???]



i wonder why the 2nd gen is larger than the 3rd gen??

 

[Hohn]

i wonder why the 2nd gen is larger than the 3rd gen??

It's to handle the superior HP of the 2nd gen

 

[RCenters]

internal or external is the balence of yr engine



internal balence they take away or add weight to yr crank



external is they add or take away weight to yr flywheel and or balencer



u want internal alot smoother with Hi RPMS , less stress on crank too

 

[Moose]

The dampener for the 3rd gens is smaller but it weighs more then the one for the 2nd gens?? .....



~ponders how that is supposed to work out~



Moose

 

[HOBrian]

Is it possible because of the early injection event it takes a lot of vibration away??

 

[rivercat]

I had seen these in jegs and summit and was waiting for someone to post on a use for one. I figured Pullers with high red-lines would be the only ones interested.

 

[JCleary]

Can someone explain what they do? Why will it be a help w/ a dual disk?

 

[jwilliams3]

Dual Disc clutches cause more harmonic issues and vibrations while driving and even at idle.



There are no springs on the clutch discs to dampen vibrations or torque spikes etc.



The theory is that this will possibly improve the noise, vibration and harmonics of the dual disc and in turn improve noise at idle, possible low end gear lash harmonics etc.

Overall this product could extend transmission life etc.



I will be trying one in my truck thanks to Peter@SBC and I will let everyone know how this unit works out. I will daily drive w/it, sled pull w/it, and more... .

 

[JCleary]

JWilliams-Cool! Looking forward to it.



I called Fred. He explained that it dampens the twist in the crankshaft front to rear and softens the spikes to the drivetrain. Hopefully it works as advertised.

 

[Hammer]

I called Fred. He explained that it dampens the twist in the crankshaft front to rear and softens the spikes to the drivetrain. Hopefully it works as advertised.

This is one item which will help any diesel owner who is striving for a more performance oriented truck. Fluidampr has long been associated with high performance applications and is used widely throughout many different motorsport applications. If you could see what a 426 Hemi/440-6pak/BB Chevy does to a crankshaft when they get revved into the outer limits of space without a good balancer then you would definately buy one. With more and more owners seeking those RPM ranges which are only rivaled in height by the space shuttle in space then this product will not only provide smoother operation and a safety cushion also. Our cast balancers are not made to see rpm ranges into and above 4000rpms and while we have not heard of any flying apart,those who do not run a good aftermarket dampner and twist high rpms are very lucky. If you would ever see the destruction caused by a dampner which flew apart then you would easily understand why they are a superior product.



Long being associated with a gentleman in my area who has run some of the fastest Mopar Superstockers in the nation and a multiple time National Record Holder in both NHRA and IHRA,I have seen the benefits first hand. There are many aftermarket dampners out there but Fluidampr remains one of the best,if not the best one made. Our trucks will definately benefit from this product and I am glad they are ahead of the pack in making one for us. I have been preaching for years to friends of mine this was one item we needed for them and now we have them available. They are not cheap,but,with the added ability to save our bearings and cranks plus the safety factor they provide,the protection provided outweighs the initial cost by HUGE amounts..... Andy



BTW,Peter,thanks for posting this as many owners will gain from this product.

 

[Extreme1]

I guess us low powered pre '98 trucks don't need it?!?

 

[Cooker]

HemiDart posted last week that they will be available for 12v's also. Low $400 was the price if I remember right. Apparently Piers has been testing them on a 3rd gen. A search will bring up the info.

 

[Todd T]

I'm just wondering if these are a "one size fits all" or if we can match the wieght to the amount of HP we are producing. if you think about it, a guy with more than double the amount of FWHP than stock is going to need more dampening (weight) than a guy with just a few more ponies.



the resulting effects of more intake pressure from for example twins or big singles, increased valvetrain dynamics from stiffer springs, higher lift cams etc and just the plain use of bigger injectors all creating higher cylinder pressures and fluctuating the harmonics all over the board.



I'd be curious if we can tune these to meet our specs???? I am and have been for quite a few years now convinced a balancer for a 245FWHP engine is scrap when trying to be used on a 600+FWHP engine. and did i leave out a non-dampened heavier than stock dual disc clutch hanging off the backside??



sign me up fella's we've been needing these for years.

 

[rivercat]

I'm just wondering if these are a "one size fits all" or if we can match the wieght to the amount of HP we are producing. if you think about it, a guy with more than double the amount of FWHP than stock is going to need more dampening (weight) than a guy with just a few more ponies.

the resulting effects of more intake pressure from for example twins or big singles, increased valvetrain dynamics from stiffer springs, higher lift cams etc and just the plain use of bigger injectors all creating higher cylinder pressures and fluctuating the harmonics all over the board.

I'd be curious if we can tune these to meet our specs???? I am and have been for quite a few years now convinced a balancer for a 245FWHP engine is scrap when trying to be used on a 600+FWHP engine. and did i leave out a non-dampened heavier than stock dual disc clutch hanging off the backside??

sign me up fella's we've been needing these for years.

These sound like some good questions for fluiddamper http:// support@fluidampr.com