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When we were at the Charlotte gun show last weekend there was a couple setup selling all kinds of plaques. We purchased some with dachshund's look and I asked her if she could custom make one and she said yes. I showed her a photo of our DayDreamer and at the Charlotte RV show last night we picked it up. It is laser cut done in fine detail.
When we were at the Charlotte gun show last weekend there was a couple setup selling all kinds of plaques. We purchased some with dachshund's look and I asked her if she could custom make one and she said yes. I showed her a photo of our DayDreamer and at the Charlotte RV show last night we picked it up. It is laser cut done in fine detail.
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What would you normally see?
Even if you got 2-3 mpg better, how long will it take to pay for the new trans you will be buying with continued use of TQ4? Even with a light foot.
64, You have warned me many times about this tune and having to replace my transmission and it is well taken. You may now stop warning me. OK! Make all the comments you want but I need no more warning. Let's move on.
ATS has just released the new copilot for the 68rfe. It is a total computer take over of the torque management on the truck. AND IT ROCKS!!! I think anyone concerned with loosing the trans should invest in it. I have it on my truck and it makes a world of difference.
Sure, I will copy and paste from the ATS web site. BTW. I know that Clint ran this in his truck for over a year while developing it. I have one of the beta testing ones. They have a new release that has at leat 4 settings. I am extremely happy with the way it makes the truck shift. Here ya go!
$1,175. 00
recommended for Towing Applications recommended for Towing and Street Applications recommended for Street Applications recommended for Competition Applications
CoPilot Lockup Controller - 2007. 5-2009. 5 Dodge 68RFE (Production dates between 2/2007 and 7/2009), complete with harness.
The ATS Co-Pilot transmission computer has many features that increase transmission reliability and performance. The Co-Pilot can be used on a stock factory 68-RFE transmissions or any aftermarket transmission although the ATS Co-Pilot has been specifically designed for use with the ATS transmission package.
In situations where the vehicle owner requires transmission holding ability above approximately 400HP the addition of the ATS Transmission and Five Star torque converter will be required due to the fact that the factory transmission and converter have mechanical and hydraulic limitations. Regardless of the transmission that the Co-Pilot is installed on all functionality will be present after the Co-Pilot is installed. The Co-Pilot also has a feature built into it that totally eliminates the problematic ‘”low-sprag or low-roller clutch” blow up syndrome that is common with the 68-RFE transmission. This is better described in the bottom of this document.
Dodge/Ram designed the transmission, torque converter and transmission control system to be part of the “torque management“ system. In large part this elaborate and complex design severely limits the torque capacity, performance and functionality of the transmission. The stock “torque management” design disables and limits the power that can be put through the transmission in situations when the power is most needed. The 68-RFE Co-Pilot eliminates the torque management based transmission control by providing all signals necessary to achieve proper line pressure, clutch application and to TCC control to provide for maximum transmission strength and performance while never setting a check engine light. All factory diagnostics are still active and the factory computer will notify the driver if there is a mechanical or electrical problem with the transmission.
Features of the 68-RFE Co-Pilot:
The ATS Co-Pilot commands the lock-up clutch of the torque converter while also controlling line pressure and internal clutch timing within the transmission to vastly improve the reliability of the 68-RFE 6-speed transmission. The ATS Co-Pilot has 4 driving settings; stock mode and 3 performance modes. To switch between these four modes, you simply use the UP and DOWN arrow keys on the front panel. Switching between driving modes can be done while driving.
Stock Mode 1 = (Down arrow button, purple light to full right)
The stock mode of the Co-Pilot uses optimized line pressures and factory lockup timing to improve drivability, reduce transmission temperatures and drastically improve the reliability of the transmission. This mode is best used with the factory exhaust brake because it follows the factory torque converter clutch (TCC) command.
Performance Mode 2 and 3 = (purple light in center of display)
These two modes are less sensitive settings than mode 4 bellow; these two modes provide an in-between driver adjustable setting that can be selected for different driving conditions.
Performance Mode 4 = (Up Arrow button, purple light to full left)
The performance mode also uses optimized line pressure incorporating a more aggressive torque converter apply strategy. Performance mode employs our unique torque based TCC engagement strategy to permit forced TCC engagement for high torque situations. When the Co-Pilot is driven in the performance mode, the TCC is engaged based on engine torque output, boost and throttle position. A new feature also incorporated into the Co-Pilot performance mode is part-throttle TCC drop-out. When not under boost, this feature allows a slight increase in engine RPM allowing the turbo to spool and generate boost to effortlessly accelerate the truck. As turbo boost is gained and engine torque comes up the converter clutch is pulsed in coupling engine torque to the transmission providing a smooth positive power transfer. These programming features drastically improve transmission performance during aggressive driving and towing while increasing transmission reliability.
Race Mode = (Automatically engages in both Performance and Stock mode)
As mentioned earlier, the 68-RFE transmission is controlled using a “torque management” strategy rather than a “torque based” strategy. Due to the fact the Co-Pilot is a secondary add on box or standalone box there are several added benefits that can be achieved taking this approach. A very common problem that the 68-RFE has is its very weak low one way sprag or one way mechanical clutch. The low sprag is used to transfer all the power from the rear gear set to the wheels. In basic terms the wimpy 3-inch diameter low sprag must hold all the engine power and transfer it to the ground when on first gear. In instances that the low sprag is over torqued the one way clutch fails and catastrophic transmission damage occurs. Because of the physical limits of the 68-RFE case and gear set there is no way to increase the size of the mechanical clutch. This physical limitation limits the transmissions ability to hold BIG power in first gear. The Co-Pilot has a huge advantage in this area! Because the Co-Pilot is an add on standalone box it has many advantages over a TCM “re-flash”. One of these advantages is the ability to command the LOW-CLUTCH during high power situations. During a situation that the vehicle is used for a hard launch such as drag racing, snow plowing, sled pulling or just generall wide open throttle acceleration the Co-Pilot automatically senses the load and the low clutch pack is engaged, totally routing power around the weak low sprag. Because of this action there is no fear that the low sprag will fail because it is not used.
Everyday driving, towing, racing. Stock transmission, aftermarket transmission or ATS Transmission. The Co-Pilot is the only way to go if you are looking for the best in transmission performance. Please call for more details.
$1,175. 00
recommended for Towing Applications recommended for Towing and Street Applications recommended for Street Applications recommended for Competition Applications
CoPilot Lockup Controller - 2007. 5-2009. 5 Dodge 68RFE (Production dates between 2/2007 and 7/2009), complete with harness.
The ATS Co-Pilot transmission computer has many features that increase transmission reliability and performance. The Co-Pilot can be used on a stock factory 68-RFE transmissions or any aftermarket transmission although the ATS Co-Pilot has been specifically designed for use with the ATS transmission package.
In situations where the vehicle owner requires transmission holding ability above approximately 400HP the addition of the ATS Transmission and Five Star torque converter will be required due to the fact that the factory transmission and converter have mechanical and hydraulic limitations. Regardless of the transmission that the Co-Pilot is installed on all functionality will be present after the Co-Pilot is installed. The Co-Pilot also has a feature built into it that totally eliminates the problematic ‘”low-sprag or low-roller clutch” blow up syndrome that is common with the 68-RFE transmission. This is better described in the bottom of this document.
Dodge/Ram designed the transmission, torque converter and transmission control system to be part of the “torque management“ system. In large part this elaborate and complex design severely limits the torque capacity, performance and functionality of the transmission. The stock “torque management” design disables and limits the power that can be put through the transmission in situations when the power is most needed. The 68-RFE Co-Pilot eliminates the torque management based transmission control by providing all signals necessary to achieve proper line pressure, clutch application and to TCC control to provide for maximum transmission strength and performance while never setting a check engine light. All factory diagnostics are still active and the factory computer will notify the driver if there is a mechanical or electrical problem with the transmission.
Features of the 68-RFE Co-Pilot:
The ATS Co-Pilot commands the lock-up clutch of the torque converter while also controlling line pressure and internal clutch timing within the transmission to vastly improve the reliability of the 68-RFE 6-speed transmission. The ATS Co-Pilot has 4 driving settings; stock mode and 3 performance modes. To switch between these four modes, you simply use the UP and DOWN arrow keys on the front panel. Switching between driving modes can be done while driving.
Stock Mode 1 = (Down arrow button, purple light to full right)
The stock mode of the Co-Pilot uses optimized line pressures and factory lockup timing to improve drivability, reduce transmission temperatures and drastically improve the reliability of the transmission. This mode is best used with the factory exhaust brake because it follows the factory torque converter clutch (TCC) command.
Performance Mode 2 and 3 = (purple light in center of display)
These two modes are less sensitive settings than mode 4 bellow; these two modes provide an in-between driver adjustable setting that can be selected for different driving conditions.
Performance Mode 4 = (Up Arrow button, purple light to full left)
The performance mode also uses optimized line pressure incorporating a more aggressive torque converter apply strategy. Performance mode employs our unique torque based TCC engagement strategy to permit forced TCC engagement for high torque situations. When the Co-Pilot is driven in the performance mode, the TCC is engaged based on engine torque output, boost and throttle position. A new feature also incorporated into the Co-Pilot performance mode is part-throttle TCC drop-out. When not under boost, this feature allows a slight increase in engine RPM allowing the turbo to spool and generate boost to effortlessly accelerate the truck. As turbo boost is gained and engine torque comes up the converter clutch is pulsed in coupling engine torque to the transmission providing a smooth positive power transfer. These programming features drastically improve transmission performance during aggressive driving and towing while increasing transmission reliability.
Race Mode = (Automatically engages in both Performance and Stock mode)
As mentioned earlier, the 68-RFE transmission is controlled using a “torque management” strategy rather than a “torque based” strategy. Due to the fact the Co-Pilot is a secondary add on box or standalone box there are several added benefits that can be achieved taking this approach. A very common problem that the 68-RFE has is its very weak low one way sprag or one way mechanical clutch. The low sprag is used to transfer all the power from the rear gear set to the wheels. In basic terms the wimpy 3-inch diameter low sprag must hold all the engine power and transfer it to the ground when on first gear. In instances that the low sprag is over torqued the one way clutch fails and catastrophic transmission damage occurs. Because of the physical limits of the 68-RFE case and gear set there is no way to increase the size of the mechanical clutch. This physical limitation limits the transmissions ability to hold BIG power in first gear. The Co-Pilot has a huge advantage in this area! Because the Co-Pilot is an add on standalone box it has many advantages over a TCM “re-flash”. One of these advantages is the ability to command the LOW-CLUTCH during high power situations. During a situation that the vehicle is used for a hard launch such as drag racing, snow plowing, sled pulling or just generall wide open throttle acceleration the Co-Pilot automatically senses the load and the low clutch pack is engaged, totally routing power around the weak low sprag. Because of this action there is no fear that the low sprag will fail because it is not used.
Everyday driving, towing, racing. Stock transmission, aftermarket transmission or ATS Transmission. The Co-Pilot is the only way to go if you are looking for the best in transmission performance. Please call for more details.
This copilot is completely different and designed solely for the 68rfe trans. all the other dodge copilots as just for lockup control. This one does much much more than that.
My truck used to downshift, unlock and gain 1k rpm with just light throttle. Instead of pulling like the older trucks do at 1800 rpm, where the engine likes to pull. It would give you 2800 rpms and you would be screaming as you went by the car you wanted to pass.
Now, I can roll into the throttle and it pulls hard. And if I hit the floor, it will down shift in lock up and you are just in 5th gear at a little higher rpm and pulling like crazy.
I am just amazed at how awesome this is. I HATED my truck because of the way it shifted. Now I LOVE it again.
My truck used to downshift, unlock and gain 1k rpm with just light throttle. Instead of pulling like the older trucks do at 1800 rpm, where the engine likes to pull. It would give you 2800 rpms and you would be screaming as you went by the car you wanted to pass.
Now, I can roll into the throttle and it pulls hard. And if I hit the floor, it will down shift in lock up and you are just in 5th gear at a little higher rpm and pulling like crazy.
I am just amazed at how awesome this is. I HATED my truck because of the way it shifted. Now I LOVE it again.
There are a couple controllers\foolers\programs like that out and they all seem to work well, until the power limit is hit. Then it will cost some dollars to fix the transmission so it will hold.
ATS usually does a good job of including features on there products. On a stock trans I'll bet they really are worth just the price of the controller.
The power window just gets narrower and narrower with the new units.
ATS usually does a good job of including features on there products. On a stock trans I'll bet they really are worth just the price of the controller.
The power window just gets narrower and narrower with the new units.
well considering the price of fuel, and how much the copilot drops your rpms, so you can drive your truck in the torque curve. I am thinking it will pay for it self in not only transmission saving, but also in fuel saving. My truck used to down shift, unlock and gain 1000 rpms while trying to go around someone on the freeway. Now it runs between 1700 and 2100 all the time. Awesome.
I am an ATS dealer, so if enough people want them I could arrange a group buy.
Just finished towing my rig deep into the BlueRidge. I did make minor mods to my Smarty tune knwing I would be pulling many graded hills. I backed down one knotch on the fueling and one knotch on the torque switch. After filling the tank I saw 1. 2 mpg increase over my last trip here. The transmission did a great job especially by up shifting sooner and the 5th & 6th gear performed great in holding my speed where I wanted it. So far do good.
We have now put about 1500 miles on our rig mainly toward Cape Charles & VA. Beach with this new tune and I think I have stumbled upon our best Smarty tune.
We took the Smarty back to all default numbers which was #0 and ran the upload. We then set the following on:
TM on #4
IT on #3
RP on #0
VGT on #4
SW#3 for 60HP with timing
This tune has given us 2 extra mpg and much cooler EGTs. I saw nothing over 1250 degrees.
This is the best tune I have run in 3 years and gives me very responsive low end pep.
:-{}AH64 does warn you heavy footers though:-{}
We took the Smarty back to all default numbers which was #0 and ran the upload. We then set the following on:
TM on #4
IT on #3
RP on #0
VGT on #4
SW#3 for 60HP with timing
This tune has given us 2 extra mpg and much cooler EGTs. I saw nothing over 1250 degrees.
This is the best tune I have run in 3 years and gives me very responsive low end pep.
:-{}AH64 does warn you heavy footers though:-{}
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