Xzillaraider ?

[gjacobs]

I have an '03 HO. I have only replaced the air box with a BHAF and have replaced the muffler with a pro flow. I am looking at the Xzillaraider but do not know which one to go with.



-DXZCRS 03-04 250hp and 305hp engines 0-30-60-100hp gains. $449

or

-DXZCRR 03-04 250hp and 305hp engines 0-60-100-140hp gains. $549



Is the 140hp too much for a pretty much stock truck? I do not want to start replacing clutches and turbos. I am going to get gauges at the same time, what do you guys think?

 

[Tomeygun]

I have an '03 HO. I have only replaced the air box with a BHAF and have replaced the muffler with a pro flow. I am looking at the Xzillaraider but do not know which one to go with.



-DXZCRS 03-04 250hp and 305hp engines 0-30-60-100hp gains. $449

or

-DXZCRR 03-04 250hp and 305hp engines 0-60-100-140hp gains. $549



Is the 140hp too much for a pretty much stock truck? I do not want to start replacing clutches and turbos. I am going to get gauges at the same time, what do you guys think?

I would go with the 140hp one...

Because I would think the 30hp is too little...



The question is can you tow on the 60hp setting??

 

[F-15I Ra'am]

I've towed on both the the 60hp and 100hp settings,no problems!

 

[SVazquez]

F-151,



What kind of weight have you towed on those settings?



Thanks

 

[F-15I Ra'am]

Between 5000 and 6000lbs. I had the EZ on the truck for a little over a year prior to the Quad. Set to level 5 and towed up to 13000 lbs. , no problems. Should get to haul heavier in the next couple of weeks,{got to gather up some rank cows for the neighbor}. The on demand power feature of the Quad is great,it adds power as your load increases. Towing,been getting about 14mpg hand calc. , 50%hwy-50%ranch road driving{with lots of stop and go and idling}. Thats what my brother in law"s 04' Powerjoke gets empty!

 

[Task125]

go with the race box,30 hp setting is worthless. and you can get a way better price on it from kyle.

 

[Task125]

http://extremedieselperformance.net/ 253 376-8002

 

[JCleary]

Go with the race box. I had the 100 box and sent it back for an upgrade.



It's nice to drive around in the 30 mode due to the better response and improved exhaust tone, but when you need to step on it to get around someone, it's not enough to make a huge difference.



I spent 90% of the time in the 60hp mode, and 100 when I wanted to have some fun.



Now I want even MORE fun

 

[Buffalo]

One of the key things GJacob said was "I don't want to start replacing clutches and turbo's. ".



I've read, here, that going beyond 60/70 HP with "preasure-only" boxes (like the EZ and some others) can jeopardize the HPCR. If running the 140HP setting, I wonder how much of that power is made with preasure?



Also, does anyone know at what power level the clutch will start slipping? What power level is lethal to the stock turbo?



I read a post on the DTR by Don M. , the injector builder, basically saying that he is seeing a lot of 3rd Gen injectors that were run with preasure boxes, like the EZ, that are being severely eroded because of the excessive preasures and the dirty fuel, I believe.



If preserving the durability and reliability of your truck is important, to you, I wonder if the more conservative box might be the way to go?



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[Tim]

If preserving the durability and reliability of your truck is important, to you, I wonder if the more conservative box might be the way to go?

If preserving the durability and reliability of your truck is that important you'll leave it stock.



If these trucks could make 400+ HP, and get 20 mpg from the factory without sacrificing durability and reliability, rest assured, Dodge would build them that way, and they'd be a giant leap away from their competition.



I'm not anti-bombing but the way that is worded these statements are warranted IMO.

 

[F-15I Ra'am]

My truck has close to 55,000miles on it,about 50,000 with the EZ on set to level 5 for most of it. So my injector tips must be about to erode off? Took a trip out to Texas a couple of weeks ago and got 20 to 23mpg. the whole time. Truck always gets around 20 highway give or take 1to2mpg. either way depending on the wind etc. . Im sure D. C. could flash the ecm to 400hp if they wanted to,just beef up the transmission a little,Marco will probably beat em to it though! Till then I got my Quad!!!

 

[Buffalo]

Eroded Injectors

F-151Ra'am.



I'm sorry if my reply upset you. That wasn't my intention, at all.



I got this information on the DTR, 3rd Gen. Performance & Accessories forum. The post was "Where to buy Don M's Flux Injectors?" Don M. makes a number of replies and in one he has a link that shows pictures of what he's been seeing with preasure boxes set on the higher settings.



The link is: http://www.nwbombers.com/forum/inde...showtopics=13895



There are a lot of us on the TDR & DTR, including me, that are looking for the perfect "box" to make MORE POWER. The problem is that there is, often, a negative associated with each of these "enhancements" (damageing your engine or some of it's components, drivetrain damage, potential loss of warranty, issues, etc. ).



Personally, I would love to have the extra power. Originally, I looked at the Edge EZ, waited for the non-existant Juice/Attitude (305/555), then the Bully Dog Power Pup and now the new Quad box. They all have their plusses, & minuses.



With all the fuel delivery problems with the Bosch HPCR system (Duramax & Cummins) I'm beginning to think the possibility of my needing my warranty is pretty good. These new systems seem to be quite a bit less reliable and more expensive.



I am in NO WAY an expert when it comes to these trucks. But, I do a fair amount of reading about other people's experiences. GJacobs was pretty smart to ask what impact these performance enhancements was going to have on the rest of his truck (clutch, turbo, etc. ).



My replies, here, seem to have quite a negative tone, to them. I don't meen to hurt anyone's feelings or upset anyone. It's just that, it's very easy to accept the positive side of things. More power=lots of fun. But, on the negative side, more power can also = a big, financial, hit to your wallet, if the added power leads to the loss of your warranty. We've all seen those that PLAYED & then had to PAY. Some didn't realize the consequences and weren't too happy.



I guess the moral of the story is to do your due diligence and:

POWER-UP WISELY, GRASSHOPPER!!!



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[F-15I Ra'am]

Not upset at all. I'd allready seen Don's post {would like try his injectors someday}. I agree its wise to be diligent in your mods. But lifes to short,and part of the fun of having these trucks is turning them up. So BOMB at your own risk! Next:turbo?injectors? one of the "money hungries" transmissions? Then turn it over to my son and get another one and start over again!

 

[Matt400]

Don M. makes a number of replies and in one he has a link that shows pictures of what he's been seeing with preasure boxes set on the higher settings.



The link is: http://www.nwbombers.com/forum/inde...showtopics=13895

Hey Joe, that link wont work, got another?

 

[TX Gooseneck]

161,000 miles and I've had no fuel system problems other than a bad lift pump.



Who has the best price on the race box? Best I've seen is $499.

 

[F-15I Ra'am]

Try Kyle:253-376-8002 www.extremedieselperformance.net

 

[swexlin]

With all the fuel delivery problems with the Bosch HPCR system (Duramax & Cummins) I'm beginning to think the possibility of my needing my warranty is pretty good. These new systems seem to be quite a bit less reliable and more expensive

THat's exactly my concern, and why I am "on the fence". I have NOT had good luck with mods in the past, and I don't think I'm gonna push it.



If I did, it would be this box, though.

 

[ramtifosi]

Check out the classified section, KYLE4 (kyle graham) has them for less. Let him know your a TDR member. I am just a satisfied customer.

 

[JCleary]

Quad's tech guys have always told me that their box holds pressure to below 26k psi, which seems to be a commonly accepted safe level for the common rail. The rest of the power gain is supposed to come from timing, duration, and boost fooling.



Quad's guys have also told me that they intended the boxes to work fine with a stock truck.



I saw a 305/555 six-speed dually with a race box two weeks ago on a Mustang dyno. He did about 4 pulls on the dyno and two 1/4 mile runs on the 140 setting, and the clutch held just fine. He has over 60k on the truck.



The same day I saw a CA SO dually with a TST fry a clutch on 8/5, but hold at 5/5.

 

[Matt400]

Quad's tech guys have always told me that their box holds pressure to below 26k psi

Just to clarify, I think its 26 on the 100hp box and 27 on the 140.



One thing to remember is you will never see those pressures unless its set on max, truck is floored and rpm's are near redline so if you stab it to a 140 box set on max and let off at a lower rpm (ie 2300) you shouldn't see 27K. Thats the way I have measured the Ramifier anyway.

On the other hand I can be part throttle at 8,000 psi and with no change in pedal position or rpm's and if I crank the knob from off to full- pressures jump to 10,000.



One thing I would like to know is if the 100 box set on 30 will increase fuel mileage, mention was made that all their available timing is in with the 30 setting.