2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Y to T steerling linkage conversion question

[EBottema]

Can you order the mounting kit seperately or do you need to buy both kits and have the extra steering stabilizer left over?

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any photos please!?

 

[JSellers]

Can you order the mounting kit seperately or do you need to buy both kits and have the extra steering stabilizer left over?

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any photos please!?

The mounting kit is a separate item from the shock cylinders. It comes with two brackets, both meant for stud type mounts on the ends of the shock cylinder. One bracket has 3-1/2 inch u-bolts to fit the axle, the other has a couple of different sized u-bolts to fit the tie rod.



As far as I know, Rancho doesn't have these stabilizers as a complete kit. The application guide lists this fitment for the Dodge as a "supplemental" stabilizer. But it wouldn't fit on my truck, unless I mounted the axle bracket just inboard of the CAD. But then, the tie rod bracket will cross in front of the differential cover, and it will contact it during a left turn.



Don't have any pictures to post now, but I'll try to get one this evening. It's really not that much to show - it looks just like the OEM stabilizer, except there's a bracket u-bolted to the tie rod which secures the shock shaft stud.



Hope this helps,

John

 

[CumminsPower98]

CumminsPower98,



How do you like that track bar you have in your pics? Was that a design that came out before the '03 conversion was available?

Does anyone else have experience with it. Its from DT Pro Fab.

I love this track bar. I got it because my original was loose plus I lifted the front end 2" so my axle was off center and this bar allowed me to center it back up. So far I have had no problems with it. I got it long before the '03 conversion came out. Yes it's a DT bar.

 

[CumminsPower98]

CumminsPower98, your web photos are worth a thousand words! I have read of this upgrade but your pictures say it all. I'm adding this to my BOMB list for my '96. While my steering isn't bad my steering linkage is definitely got some slop and doing this upgrade with Moog components will certainly help.



Vaughn

I'm glad you enjoyed the pictures.

My steering is far from fixed yet but this was a step in the right direction. I had a couple slightly loose joints so I figured I might as well do it right to start with. Next I need to buy a new, not rebuilt, steering gear and hope that gets rid of most of the play that I can't seem to adjust out. After that I want to get a DSS brace and some 1/2" longer DT control arms. After all that this truck should steering good.

 

[DAWG-1]

Tie rod

ok now i am all confused, i have a 01, which rod end do i use, a 99 or a 01?



Gary

I have an '01 too. You buy the tie rod end for an '01. You buy the rest of the parts for a '99. www.rockauto.com has all the parts (Moog) and gives a 5% discount, type in TURBODIESEL in caps wher it asks

'Please tell us how you heard us?'. Sam

 

[DAWG-1]

Stabilizer

The mounting kit is a separate item from the shock cylinders. It comes with two brackets, both meant for stud type mounts on the ends of the shock cylinder. One bracket has 3-1/2 inch u-bolts to fit the axle, the other has a couple of different sized u-bolts to fit the tie rod.



As far as I know, Rancho doesn't have these stabilizers as a complete kit. The application guide lists this fitment for the Dodge as a "supplemental" stabilizer. But it wouldn't fit on my truck, unless I mounted the axle bracket just inboard of the CAD. But then, the tie rod bracket will cross in front of the differential cover, and it will contact it during a left turn.



Don't have any pictures to post now, but I'll try to get one this evening. It's really not that much to show - it looks just like the OEM stabilizer, except there's a bracket u-bolted to the tie rod which secures the shock shaft stud.



Hope this helps,

John

Save yourself some money and buy a Skyjacker Dual steering stabilizer from www.rockymountainsusp.com . I believe they are still $89 for the complete kit. Sam

 

[JSellers]

Save yourself some money and buy a Skyjacker Dual steering stabilizer from www.rockymountainsusp.com . I believe they are still $89 for the complete kit. Sam

Dawg-1,



The retrofit I posted was for those who have done the tie rod conversion. The dual stabilizer setups won't work with the inverted-t-type steering linkage. At least, the ones I looked at won't clear the differential cover or the tie rod sleeves interfere with the bracket mountings.



Your mileage may vary,

John

 

[NWhitney]

RockAuto Price

Just priced everything out through Rockauto.com and with the 15% it comes to $295. 48. So it can still be done for less than $300. This is with all '99 Moog parts, Long drag link: DS1456, Short drag link: DS1459, Left tie rod end:ES3496, Small adjusting sleeve: ES2012S, Large adjusting sleeve: ES3498S, and the Pitman tie rod end for a '01: ES3497

 

[DirtyDodge]

Can someone tell me how to tell the Y setup from a T setup? My truck is a 02 4x4, 3/4 ton, Short Wheel Base.



Thanks,

Derek

 

[EBottema]

Just priced everything out through Rockauto.com and with the 15% it comes to $295. 48. So it can still be done for less than $300. This is with all '99 Moog parts, Long drag link: DS1456, Short drag link: DS1459, Left tie rod end:ES3496, Small adjusting sleeve: ES2012S, Large adjusting sleeve: ES3498S, and the Pitman tie rod end for a '01: ES3497

wow... 15 percent off? I thought they only gave 5 percent to TDR members?

did that price of 295 include shipping?



Erik

 

[NWhitney]

Ok let me correct my previous post. First I had one to many parts, you can reuse your ES2012S unless you just want a shinny part down there. Second you are correct there is only a 5% discount (who knows were I came up with 15%). Third that did not include shipping as I had not entered in address yet. So FINAL NUMBER $287. 71 with no tax, shipping to Ohio, and all the parts to do a '99 retrofit onto a '01. I am trying to get the parts through my local NAPA Dealer so we will see how that works out.

 

[EBansberg]

Another piece of info on this. If you get the '97 drag link rod end that connects to the pitman arm it won't work. It is too long because it has the spot for the steering damper to attach. Found out the hard way, down a truck for two days to order a new shorter rod end from another year. Went with ES3497.

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

TTT



Ok I just finished this project on my 2001 as per the information in this thread, including JSellers info about the steering stabilizer from Rancho. While searching for a bushing for the stabilizer I was at a local Monroe Muffler shop and they had a 2000-2001 half ton on the rack and I looked under it. The tie rod set up was like my stock one but it had a stabilizer that used the stock mounting on the axle housing and then bolted/clamped to the tie rod instead of having the hole like the original 2001 set up did, it looked OEM.



Question: Has anyone looked into a stock half ton stabilizer set up? I'm going to see if I can find more info, it would be great to find a 100% bolt on set up for a stabilizer. By the way this 98-99 set up feels much better but I've still got a little wondering compared to the wifes Honda, maybe that's just asking for too much?

 

[CumminsPower98]

I just added a steering damper. I didn't feel like waiting around for Rancho stuff so I got a kit from my local Carquest. My truck was a bit odd to do since I have a '96 axle under a '98 truck but it's all good now. Look toward the bottom of my mods page for pictures and info. http://www.mark74.com/ram_modifications.htm



Turbo Tim 1, if you don't have a DSS on there, get one. It made a huge difference on my truck even with all new parts.