Competition You Guys Are Getting Slow......

[COMP461]

Ah come on fellas, give Greg some slack. The IRP reports are all in now, and hes prolly heard that Scheids rail is snapping Top Fuel gasser trash transmission parts like they are built for a ricer.



I would imagine that is VERY SCARY to him and a few others, that think they have the market locked on Diesel drag racing.



Some day, that thing is going to hook up, and we'll all be... . :--)

some day will never come for them , lost cause sled pulling junk



I don't break them lol, doesn’t matter if you can get to the finish line, Ill line up beside that rail any day. The win light is all that matters to me, and right now I don’t think you could find any one that will bet against me in a race with Eric. However, I’ll take one from you, if you’re that delusional

 

[Sled Puller]

You know what must be nice? Actually having more power than you can use.



Something COMP will never, ever have to worry about. :-laf

 

[COWBOYDUALLY]

?????

Just keep typing you crap, you just someone who hides behind a keyboard, and has grandeur illusions of being someone





Who are you talking about Greg?

The only thing that disturbs me with you is instead of cramming down our throats what your doing and just how fast your doing it ... ... Stop typing on the keyboard go in the dark and come out when NO one expects it and show us who the real big dog is... ... its one thing to say "this motor is capable of big ### " and im sure it is good job to you and your team ... . Man but its not going to give you the right to tell everyone what you have , how much backing you have available,and Parts that you have available,... ...



I really hope to meet you someday, because i want to see really what kinda person you are and hopefully its just the personality you have on these forums... ... Remember since you do have the backing (and i believe you do), you are representing guys that work very hard for what they have and the Little man WHO does have grander illusions of being someone but was never given the chance... ... .....

 

[JoshPeters]

. This truck, that by everyone best estimate will run a low 8 second pass, when we get a few more passes on a completely new drive train.

You have seen fit to spout your crap , and act like this is easy, well, if it was then why can’t you pulling people make a really drag racing pass. I don’t think a exhibition type pass , is anything but that , when it can hit a . 400 pro tree, and not get timed out on the tree, then you can talk.



Moreover, you talk of big money; this project hasn’t used any more exotic parts in the long block, stock pistons, rods, and crank, from a 200,000 Winnebago motor, given to us by Cummins. If money was a factor, then the EDGE truck would have run in the 6’s by now with their high 6 figure budget. Just keep typing you crap, you just someone who hides behind a keyboard, and has grandeur illusions of being someone

Estimates are just that, estimates. We still haven't seen ANY proof of you actually running your famed 8. 72 pass. Cutting a tree, congrats, you've had practice. My Fiancee's uncle runs under . 400 pro tree all the time.



Your engine dynoed out big, that's cool. I'll congradulate you on that. What is being said right now, your not that fast for the money and time you have spent on it. Keating is knocking on your back door with out a fancy Nitrus kit. They are running Water and Fuel only. I'd say why don't you run without it... . but as I recall reading somewhere... "We built this engine to run with the Nitrus. " Sounds like a crutch to me.



I won't even mention the rest of the sponsor story. It's not my place. All I have to say is, last I knew even small time racers don't pull that crap.



JP

 

[COMP461]

What makes everyone believe that Keating’s motor is Stock, parts, that is just a horse crap. No one that really knows or understands anything about diesels, or pulling motors, believes that for one second. I only have one turbo, they have two, so your point.



And 99% of this is directed towards this Spicyjam guy , he gets on here and dose nothing but spew foul and venomous insinuations towards , the effort , me any my team have put forth.

I am writing tech articles and a few others projects for several diesel orientated magazines. The projects will be aimed at the mainstream public, and on an educational basis, towards the public, and towards a few political efforts involving the push of diesels over hybrid vehicles. as far as the little guy , if you knew how hard it was secure money and parts for this truck, and how little was really spent on this motor , less then half of what a good pulling motor would cost . Most of the gee whiz stuff was good old Competition Eliminator ingenuity, that didn’t cost a dime.

I answer questions everday, talking to several of you. I some times field two or three calls a day, I freely give out a lot of info that a lot of the so-called big dog in diesel will not lend a hand out , or just really out and out don’t know.

So the next time you and your cronies try a concerted effort to make me look like the bad guy, remember no one really cares , and in the end it will work out to my advantage , people come to see what everyone is talking about , and don’t really remember who talked about them.

 

[SpicyJam]

Hey Greg... ... ..... WHO CARES!!!! Oh ya you do, you are a your own best date... ... ..... besides why do you care who I am? Ya scared of something?... ... ... . making ya nervous because I know which vendor dropped ya like a bad habit? Make friends quickely don't ya... . just go away... ... ... ...

 

[COMP461]

you seem to care, lol your a joke and your misinformed ,

 

[fest3er]

Hey Greg ... you are a your own best date...

Perchance, is her name Rosie Pahm?



(Sorry. I *had* to say it. The devil made me do it!)

 

[Amish Elegance]

Devil = cheap brandy

 

[Sled Puller]

I think COMP just got owned... again.

 

[LPreston]

What makes everyone believe that Keating’s motor is Stock, parts, that is just a horse crap. No one that really knows or understands anything about diesels, or pulling motors, believes that for one second.

I was going to stay out of this, but I can't now. The reason everyone believes it is that I said it is and I have never said anything (to my knowledge) that would make people here think otherwise. I have never said it is all stock tho. However, the majority are parts you get from Dodge(including worked parts). The folks at Stucky have seen the stock head bolts. In fact, I'll put my $ where my mouth is.



You put up $10,000. When this motor is tired, we find an 3rd party that we both agree to that watches the teardown. When we find that the motor is majority stock compoents, I choose the charity. If it's not, well... I don't have anything to worry about. :-laf Seriously bro... . nothing to hide. We have laid it all out on the line since day one... . well, most of it.

 

[RacinDuallie]

Hey- there's nothing wrong with the rods and pistons and cranks from these Cummins engines, it all depends on WHAT is done to these parts that make them prime candidates for our uses.....

I don't see anything exotic about Greg's engine? What'd he do- wack the plenum off and use a drysump oil system? No big deal there-with the dry sump- probably worth a couple of ponies with the right ring pkg. And the intake plenum should be wacked if you really want to get that intake side of the head to flow big cfm with alot less maxboost numbers. So? what's so dang exotic on Greg's truck? I see an Ex- Pro Stock truck converted to run a comp diesel engine... ... ... .

Keating is showing what can be done with their engine build approach, and IMHO- both builds are cool. Just two different styles of engine builds.

I'd still like to see both these trucks run with both of them hooked from end to end- it would be interesting to see what the outcome is..... Oo.

We'll also see the Bentz rail run against the Dr. p truck at Colorado for the Truck Fest event, which by the way is an OPEN EVENT, ALL SANCTIONING BODIES ARE ABLE TO ENTER THIS EVENT .

That is another race that should be pretty good. Maybe the Dr. P truck will get some bite at that track, against Dustin. That should also be a good match-up on the tree also-Dustin vs. Greg- hmmmmmm.

Is Keating decided on going yet? Its a hike for sure.

 

[LPreston]

Is Keating decided on going yet? Its a hike for sure.

It kind of hinges on me at the moment, and I cannot commit until I have one personal item in order.

 

[RacinDuallie]

It kind of hinges on me at the moment, and I cannot commit until I have one personal item in order.

I hear ya there... Waiting on the UPS delivery all the time myself. :{

What's also gonna be cool is when Fletcher and myself get out and start running our tube trucks at NHRDA EVENTS, Comp has said he will run NHRDA events also. Might be time to start thinking about getting all the big guys together at a series of events. On common grounds naturally... .....

Oo.

 

[TurboTweaker]

funny thing about that schied rail. it can tear a lenco a new arese but gregs truck cant? hmmmmmmmmmm i think greg needs to go back to the drawing board and find his lost herd of pony's. as for this spicyjam guy, i think he can hit a pro tree. and heck i think i could too for that matter. whats the big deal about a pro tree anyway. did i hear something about a bad habit being droped? i hate when sponsor walks away. well im gonna go work on hitting a pro tree so i can get a ride like gregs Oo.



The Fat Kid

Andy

 

[LPreston]

Nevertheless, you said your motor was stock, meaning??? ... . Now about this stock engine, vs my engine, name an exotic part in my engine, besides a dry sump , which in it self is not a power adder, that isn’t in yours

Uh, it's mostly Cummins parts off the shelf. Here is what you have posted about your 7 month build up.

1. roller cam bearings (the cam bearing are the same 55 mm bearings Ray installs in every motor he builds)

2. The bearings are special Cleveite 77 coated race bearings

3. The rings are a special gapless done for me from total seal

4. The pistons are worked new Cummins, coated by the same NASCAR coater Ray uses in all of his motors

5. every fastener on my motor is ARP

6. The crank look the same , but is missing 25 lbs of flab

7. we lost 125 grams off the pistons

8. custom header

9. Manley valves

The current motor built in less than 2 weeks:

1. stock Cummins cam bearings

2. stock Cummins rings

3. uncoated bearings

4. uncoated pistons.

5. stock fasteners

6. 25 pound heavier stock crank

7. 125 gram heavier pistons

8. stock header

9. stock valves



Thats what I know of in direct comparison from your engine build thread.

The object is not about what can you build, but will it be competitive in a real drag race. The answer was apparent when the win light came on.

You are not competitive when you roll to the line and the truck won't run.

This standing tall on #2 only and nothing but water is a false premise, in that a second turbo is an additional power adder also.

This is one of those that will be debated to the end of fossil fuel.

 

[LPreston]

Might be time to start thinking about getting all the big guys together at a series of events. On common grounds naturally... .....



Oo.

Given the current rift, and the fact that it gets bigger by the day, I would be very surprised to see it happen. This sport is too small at this point to have multiple sanctioning bodies, be effective and have a good draw of any large competition. Without people putting the past behind and working on a better tomorrow, it won't be any better than today (dang... I should license that and sell it to Tony Robbins... lol). If its going to happen, all parties need to draw a line in the sand and work together forward from that point.



I am a member of a motorcycle riding board and one of the other members has a daughter with Cystic Fibrosis (sp?). Anyway, she just received a lung transplant. When she came out of surgery, the first thing she said was "thank you". For the first time in her 16 years, she was able to blow the candles out on her birthday cake. It puts things in perspective.



I think thats enough wisdom for the day. Oo.

 

[COMP461]

Uh, it's mostly Cummins parts off the shelf. Here is what you have posted about your 7 month build up.







The current motor built in less than 2 weeks:

1. stock Cummins cam bearings

2. stock Cummins rings

3. uncoated bearings

4. uncoated pistons.

5. stock fasteners

6. 25 pound heavier stock crank

7. 125 gram heavier pistons

8. stock header

9. stock valves



Thats what I know of in direct comparison from your engine build thread.







You are not competitive when you roll to the line and the truck won't run.







This is one of those that will be debated to the end of fossil fuel.

That really proves a point, just screw it together, and brag that is stock, so when its doesn’t run, or oils down the track, you have an excuse. The difference is in prep work, we have the same parts, just a little more care in assembly.



My take on Keating is that he probably took a little more time then you let on, and massaged the parts a little more, else it would not hold together. As for staging, I do not exhibit unsportsmanlike actions especially on a green driver. In normal racing the race car stage, and jump up on the motor and be ready to launch. But there is Denver, if you get to make the trip. It’s a excellent track and will take every thing you could possible throw at it. My prediction for you all is broken parts, or extreme tire shake, either way you have to get to the stripe to turn on the win light.

 

[COMP461]

Given the current rift, and the fact that it gets bigger by the day, I would be very surprised to see it happen. This sport is too small at this point to have multiple sanctioning bodies, be effective and have a good draw of any large competition. Without people putting the past behind and working on a better tomorrow, it won't be any better than today. If its going to happen, all parties need to draw a line in the sand and work together forward from that point.



I am a member of a motorcycle riding board and one of the other members has a daughter with Cystic Fibrosis (sp?). Anyway, she just received a lung transplant. When she came out of surgery, the first thing she said was "thank you". For the first time in her 16 years, she was able to blow the candles out on her birthday cake. It puts things in perspective.



I think thats enough wisdom for the day. Oo.

the rift is not of our making , we are working hard to put together a exhibition racing program , expect to see results soon, there are now many truck user construction , Jeffs , Dr Performance , Keating’s , a power stroke truck in south Texas , Fletchers , Banks and another one , in Texas , so it will not be hard to put a show together. Atlanta will be a great race; you have Scott Benz’s, and Eric.



My thought would be to take the show mainstream, meaning a NHRA divisional event to start, run the Pro Trucks , and then run Pro Street diesel , with a vendor paying out a purse.

 

[LPreston]

That really proves a point, just screw it together, and brag that is stock, so when its doesn’t run, or oils down the track, you have an excuse. The difference is in prep work, we have the same parts, just a little more care in assembly.

Not all the same parts. Go back and re-read.



As far as breaking, this truck has probably 20-25 passes on this motor and as many as the last for this season alone. I can say with some certainly that we are the most consistant pro truck both in times and time at the track. Its not a garage queen. How many times have you been out this year in the truck? Not trying to be demeaning, but just a question. Keating is out right now. Oo.

My take on Keating is that he probably took a little more time then you let on, and massaged the parts a little more, else it would not hold together.

Considering I was there, I think I might know a little better. I have the smashed fingernail to prove it.

My prediction for you all is broken parts, or extreme tire shake, either way you have to get to the stripe to turn on the win light.

My prediction is to better our 158. 4 :-laf