Smarty JR

[Bob Wagner]

TH high idle is automatically enabled in the software . The timing advance will not be disclosed. Its a diesel and rattle is normal.

 

[crobertson1]

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[KSHall]

Now when you say it has the latest programming from Dodge does that mean it's got the back up alarm or out of park alarm on it ? My truck does'nt have this "fix" and I don't really care to get it if I can keep from it that is.

Also does that mean it's got all the flashes for the transmission shifting problems on it too?

I know your not trying to fix all of Dodges boo boo's but I'm trying to figure out what all it does when you go back to stock for whatever reason if you loose whatever flashes that have been DL to our computer.

Thanks.

 

[BILLVO]

Bob



Will the Jr enable the forced high idle "Cruise enabled" High idle feature or if it is already enabled will it still be there when smarty is installed? This feature is more important to me than the automatic high idle.

 

[RKershner]

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ok, thxs for the reply. this a awsome web site, money well spent becoming a member. everybody helping out with their knowledge & info



thanks & merry christmas

Bob

 

[AH64ID]

Bob



Will the Jr enable the forced high idle "Cruise enabled" High idle feature or if it is already enabled will it still be there when smarty is installed? This feature is more important to me than the automatic high idle.

That is the fast idle feature we are talking about. The automatic fast idle when cold to 1000 rpms is not selectable, its part of the programing. I really like the automatic one, heck on a cold day when I stop for fuel and I leave it idle it will jump up to 1000 if the engine isnt up to operating temp... I also have the manual option and use it a fair amount as well.



And FYI, "high" idle is rated rpm no load, fast idle is "x" rpm (above idle) no load... .

 

[LSteiner]

Merry Christmas to Bob & Marco and everyone on TDR !!!

 

[BHaden]

Bob



Will the Jr enable the forced high idle "Cruise enabled" High idle feature or if it is already enabled will it still be there when smarty is installed? This feature is more important to me than the automatic high idle.

The Smarty high idle works great. I live in San Diego and rarely see really cold temps. I've been in Flagstaff AZ for 3 days, temps at night in the single digits. The idle in the morning bumps right up to 1000rpm. No mileage numbers yet as I havn't done a complete fillup and calc since fill up in Yuma on Sat morning. Power is really amazing even on the 40hp setting. Oh yeah;

lots'o smoke at high alltitude (7000 feet) at low rpm. I put my Rokteck timing sensor back to stock for the trip home.

 

[AH64ID]

The Smarty high idle works great. I live in San Diego and rarely see really cold temps. I've been in Flagstaff AZ for 3 days, temps at night in the single digits. The idle in the morning bumps right up to 1000rpm. No mileage numbers yet as I havn't done a complete fillup and calc since fill up in Yuma on Sat morning. Power is really amazing even on the 40hp setting. Oh yeah;

lots'o smoke at high alltitude (7000 feet) at low rpm. I put my Rokteck timing sensor back to stock for the trip home.

The auto idle to 1000 has nothing to do with Smarty Jr. . thats auto and enabled with every CTD. The Smarty Jr feature allows you to control your idle from 1100 to 1500 with your cruise control.

 

[Bob Wagner]

Thank you to everyone and 2008 will be another great year for all members.



We appreciate your input and support.





Thanks

Bob and Marco

 

[BHaden]

The auto idle to 1000 has nothing to do with Smarty Jr. . thats auto and enabled with every CTD. The Smarty Jr feature allows you to control your idle from 1100 to 1500 with your cruise control.

I was here last year in similar temps and don't remember it idling higher than normal. The only thing different is the SJr so i assumed that was where it came from. It's also JUST POSSIBLE my memory from last year is not correct

 

[BILLVO]

The auto idle to 1000 has nothing to do with Smarty Jr. . thats auto and enabled with every CTD. The Smarty Jr feature allows you to control your idle from 1100 to 1500 with your cruise control.

Wrong answer there chap. the automatic and manual fast idle up are both on off ECM options neither one are automatically set up with the ctd. Some dealers set up the automatic fast idle up depending on the area and some may come from the factory already enabled but neither are always there.

 

[RKershner]

Wrong answer there chap. the automatic and manual fast idle up are both on off ECM options neither one are automatically set up with the ctd. Some dealers set up the automatic fast idle up depending on the area and some may come from the factory already enabled but neither are always there.

Bill your right,I live in S. E. PA & its been getting down in the low 30's high 20's & the auto high idle has been working but never had the manual idle. I received my JR yesterday & installed the 70hp and now its working. The JR is awsomeOo. , ownly went a few miles up the road & back and the mid range power is awsome, can't wait till spring to try it on my 28' TT. I'll be running to work 40 miles oneway & I'll get back with some mpg info. Also installed the 100hp setting & its not good for the rear tires:-laf the JR is definitly worth the money

 

[AH64ID]

I was here last year in similar temps and don't remember it idling higher than normal. The only thing different is the SJr so i assumed that was where it came from. It's also JUST POSSIBLE my memory from last year is not correct

There are several things that can either turn it off or reset the 2 minute clock below ~32 and above ~15. . brakes and gas pedal are two of them. It is a very nice feature... with my EB on at 750 I get about 400*, at 1000 I get about 575* and at 1100 I get 625*. . engine really warms up quick.

Wrong answer there chap. the automatic and manual fast idle up are both on off ECM options neither one are automatically set up with the ctd. Some dealers set up the automatic fast idle up depending on the area and some may come from the factory already enabled but neither are always there.

Actually the below ~32 ramp up to 1000 after 2 minutes and instant ramp up to 1000 below ~15 is enabled at the factory, you may be able to disable it (thou I havent heard that one)... its part of the factory programing... its always there, just like if you overheat you go to 1000 rpms to help cool... read your owners manual... . "Engine idle speed will automatically increase to 1000 rpm at low coolant temperatures to improve engine warm-up. "

Between ~32 and ~15 it take 2 minutes for this to occur, if you tap the brakes or gas it resets the 2 minute clock... below ~15 it will shut off if you tap the gas or brakes... but there is no turning this feature on or off. . its just here, at least on the 325 motor, and IIRC all the CR's... on VP44 models IRC it had to be enabled (this was also the era of the 3 cylinder cold idle), but not anymore.

The manual throttle with the cruise control is the one that smarty enables, it will work with no other mods with an auto, but with a manual it requires grounding pin #22 on the ECM or installing the Cummins Clutch Switch Kit...

One thing I find interesting is that all the info I have read on the Smarty Jr says it enables the 3 cylinder fast idle. . yet this is not a feature of the CR, it stopped being available in 03... so either I am missing something or they mean it enables the manual fast idle, and we know that to be true.

From what I have read, observed, and heard from techs at several dealership the above info is correct... if you have something that shows other wise that would be great, but all the info I have seen says what I have posted is correct... The only thing I have found is that many people dont know about the fast idle, auto or manual, and why the get the manual enabled they now notice the auto... but its always been there.

 

[KYachovitz]

Good explanation AH64ID, and you're exactly right!

 

[AH64ID]

Thanks... ordered my Jr today

 

[cerberusiam]

Wrong answer there chap. the automatic and manual fast idle up are both on off ECM options neither one are automatically set up with the ctd. Some dealers set up the automatic fast idle up depending on the area and some may come from the factory already enabled but neither are always there.

Wrong answer to the correct answer. :-laf



The auto idle-up is and engine control feature built into the ECU and has been there from the start on the CR engines. There is no enable/disable to it that is easily accessible and not any reason to do so. It is there to protect the engine.



The fast idle feature controlled by the CC is also a feature of the ECU but an options group not engine control. It also is always there and has been since a certain revision number that was released in early 04. I has to be enabled, either by a scan tool or DL'er.

 

[BILLVO]

Just talked to a friend with an 03 tonight about his and he had to get the dealer to get his working. Not sure if there was a problem or just not active.



So maybe I am half wright or 1/2 rong. :-laf



I admit to not having all the facts.

 

[Buffalo]

Yesterday (Dec. 24,'07), Santa arrived at my house disguised as a US Postal Service employee. BTW, Santa was masquerading as a woman. Not bad looking, either. A Smarty Jr. was left for my '03, HO, NV-5600.



Today, I had the opportunity to install and try all three programs. All three are very nice & I think I'll stay on the 100HP setting except for towing in the mountains. The 70HP level seems to have plenty of power for my needs & 40HP isn't bad, at all. Throttle response, on 40HP, is nice, crisp & responsive.



I removed a Van Aaken C-3. 2 (duration-only) box & replaced it with the Smarty Jr. The VA, on the high level was supposed to have 130HP. The Smarty Jr. on the 100HP level seems to have more power than the VA on it's high level. The VA had all the power that I needed but, the Smarty Jr. has more. I'm very pleased with it's performance!!!!!



Marco & Bob, Thank You for what initially appears to be a fine product. My truck & I love it!!!



Joe F,(Buffalo)

 

[KYachovitz]

Thanks... ordered my Jr today

You will LOVE it!