OK, I should comment here, the tail tip is a turn down, it extends 6" out to avoid the Rock Taimers I use when towing, and the Wife doesn't like the exhaust blowing at her when she is standing there with the engine running, the polished stainless is all they come in, it really looks like crap with a dirty brown color, and yes it gets hot, go pull a 7% grade with 22000 total gross, and stop at the top and touch the tail pipe, they get hot, the Cat is the problem, I plan on just sanding it with fine sand paper to look like a regular tail pipe, problem solved.