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Using the HD one from Geno's. Use the OEM black/Rubber gasket and a light coating of Permetex's "The Right Stuff" on both sides. 40 Ft Lbs torque.



It can't really be put on dry, as even after 24 hours of drain time, it still dips. Would a different gasket do the trick?
 
18 mm gasket

Hi Bill,

As the manufacturer of the plug in question, I'm sorry to hear you are having a sealing problem with our 18 mm plug. If you will pm me, e-mail me at -- email address removed -- or call me at 941-416-0918 10 am to 10 pm 7 days a week with your full name and address,I'll be happy to send you a fiber gasket. The gasket I believe you received is a shinny type gasket. It is still the same Dorman gasket with the same part number so I'm not sure why it won't seal for you. Sorry for any inconvenience. Diana
 
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I'm not sure why as we've been using our oil pan plug in our 1996 Dodge since we started producing them in 2001. I wish you would have contacted me so I had a chance to see if I could keep you as a satisfied customer. Diana



Me too with that one. Never got it to seal completely. Went with the finger touch drain. So far so good.
 
Hey, I am not complaining here. Too old to gripe about a drain plug seepage. Just used more than one gasket type to no avail. Maybe my pan, dunno. If I was to complain I assure Geno's would bend over backwards to satisfy as they always do. I never told them either.
Thanks for the reply also.
 
I have one and it is sealing fine. I believe my mechanic torqued it a little over 40 but he had been torqueing the oem one to 60 lbs and cracked it.



On my 78 Ford Van I used a piece of rubber water hose as a seal.
 
I had this problem last time I changed oil. I had to crank it a little tighter to get it to stop.

Maybe a new gasket would help. ?. .
 
I discovered my oil pan drain opening was slightly tapered that caused the plug to seep. I installed a small "O" ring at the base of the plug and the issue was over. Now I have the flip lever drain plug (convenience) with no seepage as the earlier post mentioned.
 
next time you drain your oil, take a small fine toothed flat file and go over the gasket surface several times. usually, that will stop a seeping plug.

One thing that happens over time is tiny high spots get pulled up from the threaded hole. Filing the surface back down flat will usually fix it. Thats why installing a small o-ring will sometimes fix it.
 
Fumotu

Chuck the stocker and get a Fumotu. No comparison and makes it easy to obtain an oil sample without the deluge factor of the 3rd gen plugs.
 
Hi Bill,

As the manufacturer of the plug in question, I'm sorry to hear you are having a sealing problem with our 18 mm plug. If you will pm me, e-mail me at -- email address removed -- or call me at 941-416-0918 10 am to 10 pm 7 days a week with your full name and address,I'll be happy to send you a fiber gasket. The gasket I believe you received is a shinny type gasket. It is still the same Dorman gasket with the same part number so I'm not sure why it won't seal for you. Sorry for any inconvenience. Diana



Diana,

Ditto with the one I just received from Geno's: 22mm for a 98 12 valve. Stock one didn't leak; installed this new one and drips all over the concrete. (I know, move it the the dirt).
 
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Well if you're an Old Retired Guy, we can't have you moving dirt. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I will get in Geno's in the morning as this is definitely not the norm. In the meantime, if you will send me your mailing address, I'll be happy to send you a fiber gasket. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Diana



Diana,

Ditto with the one I just received from Geno's: 22mm for a 98 12 valve. Stock one didn't leak; installed this new one and drips all over the concrete. (I know, move it the the dirt).
 
I bought three of them for my dodges. Two don't leak but the 96 has always leaked. I never brought it up to Andy at genos because, well I just don't know why but I did not want to look like a fool. For the 96 I just went back to the oem plug which solved the oil leak.

Anthony
 
Chuck the stocker and get a Fumotu. No comparison and makes it easy to obtain an oil sample without the deluge factor of the 3rd gen plugs.



As someone who sometimes changes oil once a week I couldn't agree more. Over 100 oil changes on my fumoto and it has never leaked. No more removing and replacing the plug either.
 
I'm surprised to hear that 2 of our plugs gasket worked but one didn't. I can't explain why but can offer you a gasket. I do not want any unhappy customers. Just e-mail or pm me your address. We have sold over 5,000 of our plugs and have had no real issues reported from my customers. I have checked with Geno's and they tell me they aren't having any problems with our plugs. If you'll send me your address, I'll be happy to send you a fiber gasket which should take care of your leakage. Diana



I bought three of them for my dodges. Two don't leak but the 96 has always leaked. I never brought it up to Andy at genos because, well I just don't know why but I did not want to look like a fool. For the 96 I just went back to the oem plug which solved the oil leak.

Anthony
 
I use this plug, and no leaking issues. 40lbs seems a bit much. I had a very hard time removing mine that tight. I think I used 25lbs last time, still no leak here
 
Diana, please understand I did not post to complain. In fact I had not even thought of it until I saw the post. The drain plug is a quality piece. I could not see a problem with the plug or gasket that should cause a leak so I didn't want to bother anyone. Anthony
 
Bill...

I had the same problem a few years ago with the drain plug you are using. When we finally figured out what theissue was it had nothing to do with the nice plug but the oil pan itself. Too many years of changing oil and agressive mechanics over tightening the drain plug caused the area around the drain to get small cracks and crack the threads inside in it. You could barely see them by the naked eye but when you looked at the drain area with a spark plug exmaniner it was eveident what was happening. When the plug is installed and you torque it down it spreads the small cracks open a bit and allows the oil to begin dripping. This is the reason my truck has the chrome oil pan as I had to change it... ... ... ... Andy



P. S. -Incidentally,Dirrgang's plug is well worth the money and seals tight now.
 
I had an E-Z plug from Geno's that dripped. I put an o-ring on it + no more drip. I did have to change the o-ring after 100,000 mi or so.
 
Well if you're an Old Retired Guy, we can't have you moving dirt. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I will get in Geno's in the morning as this is definitely not the norm. In the meantime, if you will send me your mailing address, I'll be happy to send you a fiber gasket. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Diana



Diana,

I received the replacement gaskets in the mail yesterday. Many thanks to you for taking the time and effort to solve our problems. You've got a new customer for life.
 
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