oil consumption in 2014 dodge

[Tractorat]

My 2014 dodge dart with only about 9k miles goes thru a qt of oil in only 2k miles. I really doubt that dodge will do anything about this.

So far Ive only used the penzoil 0w20 oil that the dealer uses when they do oil changes. (0w20 is only available as a synthetic). Ive heard over the years that just changing the oil mfg (keeping the weight the same) can cause an engine to use or not use oil. Has anyone had that experience to verify that or not ?

Thanks

 

[Wayne M.]

Open a case with Dodge. I got good results when the '14 Durango's water pump started leaking a few weeks ago @15k miles. Out of frustration I simply started a chat on the mopar owners site, and in a bit I had a case open. I picked my dealer and it was out of the covered towing zone. I knew I had to kick in a bit but They wound up reimbursing the whole bill. The follow up calls started coming from a rep and I gotta say they've been good so far.
Just be stern. Make them acknowledge that rate of oil consumption at that age is flat out unacceptable. Make sure your PM records are in line.

 

[Tractorat]

Open a case with Dodge.

Wayne, thanks for the reply. When you say to open a case with dodge, are you referring to calling the warranty number that is in the manual ? Or just opening the case with the dealer (which is what Ive done).

 

[Wayne M.]

I should take a step back. It all started on the eve if my wife's surgery and as I passed in front of "Midnight" I smelled the smell no year old car should make. After she was home and settled, I called the selling dealer and they blew me off with an appointment 3 weeks away. I hung up on them- wasn't too crazy about them anyway.
I proceeded to call and I found nobody who could get me right in. They seem swamped. It was then on a whim that while on the mopar owners site, a chat bubble offering help popped up. I had nothing to loose and I unloaded.

 

[Bob4x4]

The dealer will have to do an oil consumption test. Are you sure it is not just a leak?

 

[Tractorat]

The dealer will have to do an oil consumption test. Are you sure it is not just a leak?

Yes, its been doing it since I got it brand new last year. Dealer is doing an oil consumption test. But after the first 1000 miles and it is down a half qt, first the dumb *** dealer said it looks normal. And then, with the level right in the middle of the dip stick, they said the oil was full. I did a very slow burn at both of those comments.

 

[Bob4x4]

There is a service bulletin to be used for oil Consumption=09-007-15
**The accepted rate of oil consumption for engines used in the vehicles listed above is 1
quart (0.946 liter) in 2,000 miles (3,200 km) for the 1st 50,000 miles (80,467 km). For
vehicles with more then 50,000 miles (80,467 km) the acceptable oil consumption for
engines is 1 quart (0.946 liter) in 750 miles (1,207 km).*

 

[Tractorat]

There is a service bulletin to be used for oil Consumption=09-007-15
**The accepted rate of oil consumption for engines used in the vehicles listed above is 1
quart (0.946 liter) in 2,000 miles (3,200 km) for the 1st 50,000 miles (80,467 km). For
vehicles with more then 50,000 miles (80,467 km) the acceptable oil consumption for
engines is 1 quart (0.946 liter) in 750 miles (1,207 km).*

That is just to cover dodges ***. The "accepted rate of consumption" in any brand new car is zero qts between oil changes. Ive had 10 or 12 brand new cars in my lifetime and not one has used any oil at all. Even when over 100k miles. (I take good care of my cars). There is nothing in the sales literature that says this car will (or even may) consume oil in between oil changes.

 

[Wayne M.]

I'd like to see the TSB on that topic for any of the Asians.
I would whip out a bubble level and put it on some reference point of the engine for consistency.

 

[Ram4Sam]

There is a service bulletin to be used for oil Consumption=09-007-15
**The accepted rate of oil consumption for engines used in the vehicles listed above is 1
quart (0.946 liter) in 2,000 miles (3,200 km) for the 1st 50,000 miles (80,467 km). For
vehicles with more then 50,000 miles (80,467 km) the acceptable oil consumption for
engines is 1 quart (0.946 liter) in 750 miles (1,207 km).*

Holy smokes, burning a quart of oil in 750 miles is ok???? I wonder if the environmental wackos (and the feds) are aware of this......That's up there in smudge pot territory......:-laf

Sam

 

[mwilson]

Just for grins I present a portion of the "Acceptable Oil Consumption Chart" used by Cummins while engine is under warranty.

Some engines use oil, some don't. I had one Northstar that used a quart every thousand miles and the one I have now uses less than a 1/2 quart in 12,000 miles. Go figure.

If it runs good I would not even start to worry about it UNLESS the usage increases. Try changing oil brands, sometimes an engine will not like one particular brand.

 

[mwilson]

That is just to cover dodges ***. The "accepted rate of consumption" in any brand new car is zero qts between oil changes. Ive had 10 or 12 brand new cars in my lifetime and not one has used any oil at all. Even when over 100k miles. (I take good care of my cars). There is nothing in the sales literature that says this car will (or even may) consume oil in between oil changes.

You've been lucky then. Any internal combustion engines uses oil.

Some more than others but don't condemn your current vehicle over it. A quart in 2,000 miles would not even start to concern me. I have a 2008 3.3L engine that uses a quart every 2500 miles. Always has. I don't worry about it.

 

[Wayne M.]

Wow. Those are some numbers from cummins! I wonder what the limit is on what a cat converter can handle in the way of burnt oil.

 

[Tractorat]

Some more than others but don't condemn your current vehicle over it. A quart in 2,000 miles would not even start to concern me.

Well, no. Not in a brand new car. That would be a lot of luck. Maybe in one with over 100k miles. Even the service guys when asked admit it is not normal (but acceptable)

 

[Tractorat]

BTW, I still like this car. I like the way it looks and the way it drives. But using any oil this early means it is not going to last me 200k miles, and it will not last me 10 years (which was my plan) . When they use oil, it only gets worse.

And I still havnt heard anyone with an experienced opinion on changing oil brands.

 

[mwilson]

Again, you have been lucky. If cars didn't use some oil there would be no need for a dipstick........and a recommendation to check oil at every fill-up....

You are going to waste a lot of effort on a non-issue.

 

[mwilson]

BTW, I still like this car. I like the way it looks and the way it drives. But using any oil this early means it is not going to last me 200k miles, and it will not last me 10 years (which was my plan) . When they use oil, it only gets worse.

And I still havnt heard anyone with an experienced opinion on changing oil brands.

In the automotive and truck fields for my entire life is not experienced??? You set the bar high.:-laf

 

[Tractorat]

In the automotive and truck fields for my entire life is not experienced??? You set the bar high.

Well, unless I missed something (and I could have), you didnt answer my original question. Read my first post again,

 

[Tractorat]

BTW, my son in law is one of the top mercedes techs in the US and he agrees with me. So do several other folks that I know who have been in the car and truck fields for their entire lives.

And, btw, I dont know how many brand new cars youve owned in your lifetime. But if theyve all burned oil when they were brand new, you have been extremely UN lucky.

And, btw, my 02 ram with 120k miles still doesnt use any oil.

 

[mwilson]

Well, unless I missed something (and I could have), you didnt answer my original question. Read my first post again,

No, I came in on the third post. Sorry.

Yes, I have seen a brand switch help with oil consumption. I also find 0w-20 to be almost ridiculously light. I know, synthetics, blah, blah, modern refining, blah, blah, etc........99% of these low viscosity oils simply give a little less resistance which enhances fuel mileage. Now if there are solenoids involved like the Hemi has for the cylinder cut out then I'll buy that. If no wizardry lives in my gasoline engines then Havoline 10w30 is what they get.