Aisin Daily Driver

[Cummins12V98]

What a completely stupid post!

OH please tell us why???

 

[Newsa]

When asked, Stan Gozzi head West coast Warranty Rep about the AISIN a few years ago at MayMadness, he said "they don't break".

That's what they said until they deleted and tuned the Cummins behind it. (in front of it)

 

[gsbrockman]

That's what they said until they deleted and tuned the Cummins behind it. (in front of it)

That is kind of a given.....I would think.

 

[jhenderson]

OH please tell us why???

He’s not happy with the one mommy bought him.

 

[Newsa]

That is kind of a given.....I would think.

I would think also. Unbreakable is relative, not absolute. Some decided to just (simply) electrinically dial back the torque management to deal with throttle lag/dead pedal( No increase in max torque...not a huge tune/adjustment.)That was enough to do in any of the offered trannies.

 

[masterdrago]

Thanks all. I cannot find where here that I saw that info. I did look again through some of the older threads. Peace of mind.

 

[Bug Out]

I'd much prefer the AISIN for a daily driver then the 68RFe which is a good transmission, but does its, what a call, "Slip and slide from gear to gear", in and out of lock up, rpm flares...AISIN, no flare, runs like a regular old transmission..Mine was a bit rough shifting when new, but after a couple thousand miles of driving, smoothed right out.

 

[gsbrockman]

I would think also. Unbreakable is relative, not absolute. Some decided to just (simply) electrinically dial back the torque management to deal with throttle lag/dead pedal( No increase in max torque...not a huge tune/adjustment.)That was enough to do in any of the offered trannies.

Indeed.....and it seems like the G56 models are dialed back the most, based on advertised horsepower and torque ratings.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I had no issues with my 68RFE even towing 28-29K. I did run the HE!! out of it from DaveSmith all the way to NW WA so it learned to operate very well.

If the 68 was the only trans available I would be ok with that but I will take the AISIN any day! Simply put it drives like a nicely built trans should.

 

[Newsa]

I'd much prefer the AISIN for a daily driver then the 68RFe which is a good transmission, but does its, what a call, "Slip and slide from gear to gear", in and out of lock up, rpm flares...AISIN, no flare, runs like a regular old transmission..Mine was a bit rough shifting when new, but after a couple thousand miles of driving, smoothed right out.

Glad to hear the shifting smoothed out. How long (miles/time) did it take to break it in?

Since it's not a learning transmission, I'd guess it smoothes out after it gradually breaks in?

Indeed.....and it seems like the G56 models are dialed back the most, based on advertised horsepower and torque ratings.

Yeah, but I'll never want to put down the money for that transmission. I like my cheaper tradesman with the caveman style "club" shifter. :-laf

 

[gsbrockman]

Yeah, but I'll never want to put down the money for that transmission. I like my cheaper tradesman with the caveman style "club" shifter. :-laf

In your instance....that is great, as you do not run commercially nor use your truck to pay the bills. I personally could not decline loads based on the towing capacity and GCWR of a G56 truck when compared to the truck I currently own. 5,890 lbs of trailer towing and 6,000 lbs of GCWR goes a lonnnnnnggggggg way for me and my intended use. My AS69RC was paid for after the first 1,078 loaded miles.....and it has been a wonderful investment through my current miles of 342,816. If it falls out tomorrow, it really owes me NOTHING !!! :-laf

 

[Newsa]

In your instance....that is great, as you do not run commercially nor use your truck to pay the bills. I personally could not decline loads based on the towing capacity and GCWR of a G56 truck when compared to the truck I currently own. 5,890 lbs of trailer towing and 6,000 lbs of GCWR goes a lonnnnnnggggggg way for me and my intended use. My AS69RC was paid for after the first 1,078 loaded miles.....and it has been a wonderful investment through my current miles of 342,816. If it falls out tomorrow, it really owes me NOTHING !!! :-laf

I agree. You get good service out of your Aisin and 3.73's. And you can't beat the efficiency you get from that combo

A G56 makes more sense in a 2500, not a 3500 IMO. Especially since the automatics Ram offers are both really impressive.

I guess truckmen pulls alot with his G56 and 3.73 combo.

I respect how you run your business and make a profit in a challenging sector. I do enjoy seeing what you pull. Keep posting pics and videos

 

[Aero_Dave]

Mine Loves to be a Daily Driver. 11 miles each way to work and no issues.
Just go drive it!

Dave...

 

[RamCummins70]

I have almost 53K on my "DailyDriver" Dually with AISIN. Run TH and EB all the time and you will have no issues with drivability. Oh I also tow 33-35K combined with it, what a pleasure!!!

Add "Dually" to your public profile and 2 or 4wd as it helps with getting questions answered!

I just got my 2018 3500 SRW with the Aisin in late December. The ride is a little tougher than my 2500 was as expected as a daily driver. I have to quit running TH and EB when empty because of the violent downshifts. I just run the EB now and it’s much more comfortable to drive. I m wondering if things are different with the 930 FT trq compared to the 2017?

 

[kthaxton]

I just got my 2018 3500 SRW with the Aisin in late December. The ride is a little tougher than my 2500 was as expected as a daily driver. I have to quit running TH and EB when empty because of the violent downshifts. I just run the EB now and it’s much more comfortable to drive. I m wondering if things are different with the 930 FT trq compared to the 2017?

Probably not, he's just the kind that feels "I do it and like it, therefore everyone should". Say it enough times and others begin to think there is a compelling reason other than just that is his preference.

Personally, I always turn the E brake on, and only rarely turn the T/H on when I am not towing.

Just remember, it is just personal preference, nothing more. There are benefits to using the EB more frequently, but T/H is mostly about preference.

 

[Cummins12V98]

That's right do what works for YOU !!! Running the E brake is probably not as much of an issue as it once was pre 13. It sure does not slow you down without the use of TowHaul. I personally would not consider my downshifts "violent" but it sure slows down the truck in a hurry. I barely use my service brakes.

TH keeps my trans in the best rpm for instant acceleration without having to downshift.

Just my reasons and my preferences.

52K, rotors and pads look new.

 

[Newsa]

Probably not, he's just the kind that feels "I do it and like it, therefore everyone should". Say it enough times and others begin to think there is a compelling reason other than just that is his preference.

Personally, I always turn the E brake on, and only rarely turn the T/H on when I am not towing.

Just remember, it is just personal preference, nothing more. There are benefits to using the EB more frequently, but T/H is mostly about preference.

"Say it enough times and others begin to think there is a compelling reason "

You mean like running EB helps keep the turbo from shooting up and preserves the turbo?

 

[brillmtb]

I aisins don’t break why so much torque management built into the trucks. Some threads even suggest more throttle lag or dead pedal with aisin than regular transmission.

I bought the aisin based on reputation prior to knowing about the throttle delay issues many are reporting now

 

[kthaxton]

I aisins don’t break why so much torque management built into the trucks. Some threads even suggest more throttle lag or dead pedal with aisin than regular transmission.

I bought the aisin based on reputation prior to knowing about the throttle delay issues many are reporting now

I can't speculate for all the reasons for the TM levels, but TM protects more than just the trans, it also makes life easier for the ring and pinion as well as the driveline/u-joints. Just think of the forces that can be applied to just a couple gear teeth with a potential 30k trailer and 800, 900, 930 ft/lbs of torque.

 

[RamCummins70]

Probably not, he's just the kind that feels "I do it and like it, therefore everyone should". Say it enough times and others begin to think there is a compelling reason other than just that is his preference.

Personally, I always turn the E brake on, and only rarely turn the T/H on when I am not towing.

Just remember, it is just personal preference, nothing more. There are benefits to using the EB more frequently, but T/H is mostly about preference.

I love using the E brake in traffic and when not towing. But with my upgrade to the 3500 Aisin I wasn’t sure what the hype was about with what I was experiencing running empty. Then I wasn’t sure if there was a difference with the new tuning for 2018. Enjoy your truck.