Deere 1023E Vs. Kubota BX1880

[mwilson]

Thanks Mike!
I see. In the trans and mechanically actuated. Clever.

Picture is deceptive, that is the transmission housing and right hand drive housing. The actual axle is not shown. There will be another brake assembly and driveshaft for the left side. I believe when the brake lever is pulled by the brake pedal linkage the little roller balls force the outside pressure plate against the friction plates. There will an identical set on the left controlled by the other brake pedal.

 

[TFucili]

My next one up from this potential new one is 65 hp. It's 7' high to the top of the ROPS when folded. Lol

My kids on it.

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That's a nice tractor! Would have been a 2555 in my Deere days +/-

 

[jgillott]

That's a nice tractor! Would have been a 2555 in my Deere days +/-

Thanks. I bought it new at the end of 2003. I love it. It's a definite long term unit. A tad too big for some chores, but really shines pulling a plow or running my brush bull through the heavy brush.

 

[mwilson]

I ran one of these when in High School, the Hydrostatic transmission worked great with implements especially with a hay baler or silage chopper / wagon combo.
It was only a year old when I got to run it.....

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[jgillott]

I ran one of these when in High School, the Hydrostatic transmission worked great with implements especially with a hay baler or silage chopper / wagon combo.
It was only a year old when I got to run it.....

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We have a 574 gas sitting down at the top of our vinyard. It definitely has seen its better days but still fires up and runs great as a stationary power unit.

 

[Wayne M.]

I ran one of these when in High School, the Hydrostatic transmission worked great with implements especially with a hay baler or silage chopper / wagon combo.
It was only a year old when I got to run it.....

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Love the rear fenders with the lighting.

 

[mwilson]

Used it after dark quite a bit and the lights worked really well mounted there....

 

[DHayden]

I did a lot of research on this a little while back. Both brands are great so it really comes down to two things:
1. Who is offering the best deal (whether initial price or financing)
2. After sale support/warranty. If you have a lot of Deere around you that may be a better choice depending on initial cost. If the orange dealership isnt far then that may be the best option if the initial price is lower.

For what your using it for and especially mainly for your dad running it, I think you will be much happier with a hydro-static transmission (your dad definitely will be)

 

[JR]

I hate to be "that guy" that keeps recommending something you've already decided against but there really is no substitute for a zero turn when it comes to mowing. Part of my property is also low/wet so I put some mild ATV tires on the back. With the added traction If it's too soft or wet I've got no business being out there in the first place. It'll carve ruts clear to clay before it gets stuck. And its a tank at over 1600 pounds. A lighter machine with the tires i have would fair better. Depending on the terrain they can go as slow as any conventional tractor or they can run circles around them. They can be optioned with quality suspension seats to soften the ride. I was a conventional mower guy up until I bought this rig and I can 100% say I'll never go back. That being said I understand what you are saying about buying something your dad can drive. My grandfather ran a zero turn into his 90's before we had to make the decision to pull the keys from him. We probably prolonged it longer than we should have. We even built a handrail to help him get on and off and mounted a large umbrella over the ROPS to keep the sun off him. In the end his vision got so bad he was making a habit of running into things and it got to be a safety issue. It was a hard decision for sure.
Good luck with whatever you decide on J.

 

[Wayne M.]

Picture is deceptive, that is the transmission housing and right hand drive housing. The actual axle is not shown. There will be another brake assembly and driveshaft for the left side. I believe when the brake lever is pulled by the brake pedal linkage the little roller balls force the outside pressure plate against the friction plates. There will an identical set on the left controlled by the other brake pedal.

I believe you’re right. The ball/ ramp idea is how the Ausco/Lambert disc brakes work on the 1952 Imperial NYC parade car.

 

[Wayne M.]

JR, what brand is that? I see a pretty industrial air cleaner.

 

[JR]

Its a Scag Turf Tiger. Air cleaner assembly is Donaldson with a primary and secondary (inner and outer) filter set up like you would see on construction equipment. Deck is shaft driven. Fans integrated in each hydro pump. Too many grease zerks to count. It weighs right around 1650 lbs without fluids according to my service manual. She's built for the long haul

 

[jgillott]

I did a lot of research on this a little while back. Both brands are great so it really comes down to two things:
1. Who is offering the best deal (whether initial price or financing)
2. After sale support/warranty. If you have a lot of Deere around you that may be a better choice depending on initial cost. If the orange dealership isnt far then that may be the best option if the initial price is lower.

For what your using it for and especially mainly for your dad running it, I think you will be much happier with a hydro-static transmission (your dad definitely will be)

The Kubota dealer is about 45 min away. The closest Deere dealer is 5 miles. Then there is one 20 min away and one approx an hour.

 

[jgillott]

I hate to be "that guy" that keeps recommending something you've already decided against but there really is no substitute for a zero turn when it comes to mowing. Part of my property is also low/wet so I put some mild ATV tires on the back. With the added traction If it's too soft or wet I've got no business being out there in the first place. It'll carve ruts clear to clay before it gets stuck. And its a tank at over 1600 pounds. A lighter machine with the tires i have would fair better. Depending on the terrain they can go as slow as any conventional tractor or they can run circles around them. They can be optioned with quality suspension seats to soften the ride. I was a conventional mower guy up until I bought this rig and I can 100% say I'll never go back. That being said I understand what you are saying about buying something your dad can drive. My grandfather ran a zero turn into his 90's before we had to make the decision to pull the keys from him. We probably prolonged it longer than we should have. We even built a handrail to help him get on and off and mounted a large umbrella over the ROPS to keep the sun off him. In the end his vision got so bad he was making a habit of running into things and it got to be a safety issue. It was a hard decision for sure.
Good luck with whatever you decide on J.

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Dad still handles a conventional tractor OK. I wouldn't say great, he had a little mishap with the brush hog and our outhouse a few years back, but that's a story for a different day. Let's just say that I'm not letting him live that down.

He was just a fish out of water on the zero turn. Very uncomfortable and you could tell that he was dead set against it. It's not worth the fight to try and teach him how to use one at this point. I'd rather just pick up something traditional for now and then maybe look at a zero turn or whatever is out the next time around. I actually started out looking for another garden tractor. But, they are literally the same price as these subcompacts to get anything decent and I really want that ROPS for him (and for my daughter when it comes down to it).

 

[Wayne M.]

Based on support, looks like you’re going green again. Outhouse? Hmmmm.

 

[jgillott]

Based on support, looks like you’re going green again. Outhouse? Hmmmm.

Just.on front of my '07 in this pic. It's a 2 seater in fact...lol

Anyway, my father was coming by there one day and misjudged the tail swing of the rotary cutter he had on the back of the tractor. Knocked the entire outhouse off the foundation.

Hadnt been used in 50 years, but of course, he made me put it back up.

 

[BIGNASTY]

We have approximately 4 acres that we like to keep groomed as lawn and another 4/5 that we like to keep UNDER CONTROL. In MT we tried a JD Z turn what a POS that thing was we bought a commercial Scag, hands down!!! better than the Deere. When we moved to IN we went to look at several new Z turns, I stopped at a outdoor power equipment dealer for some Amsoil his primary brand was Husqvarna just looking around he got me to give one a try at no cost to us and he would deliver and pick it up. Its a 52" Husqvarna has a Kawasaki FS651V motor I believe its 22 HP Penny is the one who uses it most, I take care of the 4/5 acres of under control field. I use a 1971 MF 135 Deluxe because it has power steering with a PERKINS AG3.152. I can't sit on the Z turn for very long I JUST DONT LIKE ANY OF THEM. I can sit the MF 135 ALL DAY LONG, the Family have threatened to buy me a JD Tractor to use one with a cab for the winter snow removal & A/C sweltering summer chores Ive told them IT WILL SIT UNUSED I don't like the new tractors they are to complicated lots of useless xxxx that isn't needed and just something else to break and cost an arm & leg to fix BECAUSE I CANT DO IT. The MF is awesome a little stubborn to get fired up on a -0 day but a little starting fluid solves that, fill it up with non ethanol fuel check the fluids and the only reason to stop for the rest of the day is coffee on cold days or a beer on the hot ones. Cant find any of the Z turn but will eventually, like I said I can't sit a Z turn for long but a tractor ALL DAY

 

[NIsaacs]

I really want that ROPS for him (and for my daughter when it comes down to it).

Good call! The little suckers can hurt you, I was lucky here, my homemade weight bar stopped it from going all the way over.

 

[jgillott]

Good call! The little suckers can hurt you, I was lucky here, my homemade weight bar stopped it from going all the way over.
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That can happen so quickly. Happy you weren't hurt.

 

[JR]

Good call! The little suckers can hurt you, I was lucky here, my homemade weight bar stopped it from going all the way over.
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Tractor weights and chains WITH the mower deck on?I'm thinking the wheelie was intentional with unintended consequences