engine reliability

[Berrigan]

Was at the dealer yesterday looking for a used gas 1500 for my son. The sales guy showed us a new 1500 eco diesel, 2018, that was nearly a year old. It had 80 miles on it and they wanted to deal. They offered to sell it for 25,800 plus tax and license. This seems like a good price. I wanted to know from the eco diesel owners if you all think this engine is a reliable motor. I understand at one point there were problems with them. Has that been resolved? Thanks for your input.

 

[p-Bar]

Drove my sons for about 10 days while watching the grand kids. Ran great he did drop a rod at under 20k they dropped a new engine in it . Keep reading

 

[DonFitzwater]

Was at the dealer yesterday looking for a used gas 1500 for my son. The sales guy showed us a new 1500 eco diesel, 2018, that was nearly a year old. It had 80 miles on it and they wanted to deal. They offered to sell it for 25,800 plus tax and license. This seems like a good price. I wanted to know from the eco diesel owners if you all think this engine is a reliable motor. I understand at one point there were problems with them. Has that been resolved? Thanks for your input.

Buy! Dang that is cheap. Used Ecodiesels sell for more than that in my part of the country.

 

[CToney]

If I didn't drive a lot of miles and at least 15 miles Hwy at a time I'm not sure an ED would be a good fit in a colder climate. No DEF trouble yet but my truck in is a heated garage. On the farm in SK we can burn dyed diesel without that 12 cents per litre reduction in price I'm not sure I'd buy another one. Theses trucks are no where near as robust as my 03 or 05. We will see how it works long term. I'm at 50,000 kms so far with no trips to the dealer.

 

[RVTRKN]

My opinion is a biased NO!

 

[TCDiesel]

The QC at Cento Italy is beyond Criminal. FCA reputation on the VM is blindness.
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My 2018 ecodiesel 1500 blew up today with 14,500 miles on it. Oil everywhere and broke down on the side of the road. Add me to the list

 

[DonFitzwater]

The QC at Cento Italy is beyond Criminal. FCA reputation on the VM is blindness.
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My 2018 ecodiesel 1500 blew up today with 14,500 miles on it. Oil everywhere and broke down on the side of the road. Add me to the list

Todd, why is it that my local dealer has sold quite a few of these and has had no engine failures? They've never had to order a replacement engine as of yet. Think it's temp related???

 

[TCDiesel]

Don some Dealers are not being truthful on sales and service, and some ( Personnel ) have no Idea what repairs or replacement are occurring, only Dealership head of the service dept have that info....I checked about a week ago and last month demand was 43 engines. look for Feb 19 to be 50+, Even I need to sources that require secure authorization to view info....

The target Industry for rotating mass failure is 1 per-1000 MAX, the 3.0 is 1 per 98-103 Avg. and at 1 point in 2016 June-Sept it was 1 per 10 sold. If you don't fix the problem it affect the future #s. So unless FCA fixes Cento You are 10 to 50 times more likely to have your 3.0 rotating mass failure then most manufactures would allow before shut of production... with 2018 3.0 rate failures vs sales equally - less than 1 per 1000 tells Me Cento is FUBAR.

 

[HPSimpson]

I have a 2014 3.0 with 68k zero problems, now for 3500 nothing but constant problems turbo been replaced twice transmission cooler was damaged by dealer so call mechanic's, now dealer wants to replace the transmission I am starting to lose my mind.

 

[RVTRKN]

14 is a bad year for Ram CTD, My 14 2500 CTD company truck the business owned was lemoned lawed due to major issues, that the company lost money on due to downtime. They got all their money back and then some.

 

[DonFitzwater]

Don some Dealers are not being truthful on sales and service, and some ( Personnel ) have no Idea what repairs or replacement are occurring, only Dealership head of the service dept have that info....I checked about a week ago and last month demand was 43 engines. look for Feb 19 to be 50+, Even I need to sources that require secure authorization to view info....

The target Industry for rotating mass failure is 1 per-1000 MAX, the 3.0 is 1 per 98-103 Avg. and at 1 point in 2016 June-Sept it was 1 per 10 sold. If you don't fix the problem it affect the future #s. So unless FCA fixes Cento You are 10 to 50 times more likely to have your 3.0 rotating mass failure then most manufactures would allow before shut of production... with 2018 3.0 rate failures vs sales equally - less than 1 per 1000 tells Me Cento is FUBAR.

My dealer has told me about lot's of emission related problems and other stuff limited to the 1500 chassis but no engine failures. I know the parts/service manager and he says 0 engine failures. They've had a couple oil coolers fail and some exhaust leaks early on at the flex coupling but thats about it for weird stuff.

 

[Ozymandias]

Well, acording to the Numbers.
Standard Fail rate should below 1:1000
999 out of 1000 work as desired and happy owners.
3.0 Fail rate is 1:100
99 out of 100 work as desired and happy owners.

Seen from this side of the world still way more happy customers.

But sure not an acceptable failure rate!

 

[TCDiesel]

I have a 2014 3.0 with 68k zero problems, now for 3500 nothing but constant problems turbo been replaced twice transmission cooler was damaged by dealer so call mechanic's, now dealer wants to replace the transmission I am starting to lose my mind.

check your intake Plenum, at that Mileage its completely cake up, and when it does give you a problem fortunately its cover under the settlement otherwise $$$$

68k trouble free until $$$$... I hope your ED does not see the same Dealership your 3500 does.

My 13 3500 in 5.75 Years of ownership has not 1 CEL other than the failed in tank pump at 232 Miles. I know of 100s of 2013+ some problems but none on rotating mass failures, If the 3.0 sales #s equal the Cummins 6.7 for 5 years bandwidth would allow for all the failures.

More 6.7 engines are sold in 1 week about 2500+ Worldwide compared to ED, 2400 Per month Max back in 2015-16.

 

[TCDiesel]

I have 1200 Pages of inner FCA communications ( Names, dates, Emails, Phone #s, ETC ) on the ED dating back to 2012 that Showed up in My mail Box VIA USPS/ Flash Drive. its very condemning and I've been ask to not publicly disclose its content , But I have share some of its info, and if you check the WEB you will see the info I did share ( Parts of the info) was months before FOIA released portion of the info I have.

 

[TCDiesel]

 

[Wayne M.]

I don’t have one, but a co worker does. He’s finicky and particular with his vehicles. He does a lot of city expressway (hi speed to bumper to bumper) for about 2 years now, and last I heard, he still likes it.

 

[TCDiesel]

I've mentioned this several times, its Hero-Zero Status. But It will be sucking up your wallet in long term ownership.. and fortunately the problematic areas are covered under the 10-year 120K miles or 4 years- 48K miles. and $3K-$900.00 cash payout to owners. This help a lot. My 3.0 ED is going back to FCA, I'm waiting it out to see what power plant ( Diesel ) the 1500 getting in 2020 My guess is in Sept 19 we will know.

 

[TFucili]

So, I have been following this off and on. Was this engine not originally designed or co-developed with GM? This has their fingerprints all over it. 5.7 crank failures, 6.2 and 6.5 crank failures, I was not even aware that the Dmax has had more than normal crank issues to the point where there is an alternative firing order camshaft to take the load off the front of the crank. Full dusclosure, I am by no means a GM fan, and owning a few has only soured me more.

 

[RVTRKN]

What a shame Fiat bought Chrysler, Fiat wants to sell their crap here for the bigger market share they cant hold a candle to there (Italy). And Cummins had to sell the 5.0 V8 CTD with the same HP/Torque as a 04 5.9 CTD to Nissan. What a bone head move FCA made, can you imagine what that engine could do if it was coupled to the 8spd trans? And they sell the crapy ED instead, to get more money, even when they have to replace motors. But if they would have stayed with the 5.0 CTD, Ram would own the market in HD and the 1/2 ton market, out right.

My opinion is a biased NO!

As I posted, I'm biased.

 

[GrantP]

The Cummins V8 followed Fred Diaz to Nissan, he was trying to get it into the 1/2 ton Ram until Obama and Fiat got involved.