Pedal Delay Gone-Great Increased Performance!

[Wiredawg]

Sorry, didn't mean to take my thread about a plug in power module into a gvwr, gcwr, or what is the best towing platform discussion. To refocus back on the topic at hand, my next update will be how this power upgrade feels towing. I solicit more discussion or input about the thread subject.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Wiredawg]

You are correct and I was wrong about 5500 having tighter turning radius than 3500 p/u. My 5500 crew cab is 60" cab to axle. 5500 steering angle is slightly tighter than 3500 pu, the C&CS are about 4 inches longer wheelbase, not a biggie, but still true. Both your 3500 and my 5500 turning radius 49.2', but mine is longer than yours.

Guys, I believe the Ram 3500 4x4 LB DRW is the best in its class all around. I'm not as sure how Ram 5500 stacks against Ford F550, cuz I didn't consider Ford and didn't compare. I only considered Freightliner Sportchassis.

BL: I like mine and I like yours and you like yours. We're all good and happy with our respective rides, I just wanted the HP/TQ you have in my truck.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I posted what I did to let people know it’s fine to use a DRW like mine to tow HEAVY and have the higher HP.

Nothing wrong with the 4500/5500’s. But you WILL VOID your warranty by adding a tuner to get to the same HP as the 3500.

This site is about info. Not criticizing.

 

[TFucili]

As I contemplate my return to Cummins power, I am in this very discussion. Pluses to both avenues. I really like the 19.5" rubber, availability of 52+22 factory fuel capacity, and not paying for a pickup body that they offer nearly nothing for if you choose to go with a hauler body. But, there is no denying that I am a power addict, yet I prefer to stay stock. Rock and hard place.

I don't think anyone is wrong for their choice, and I have appreciated Wiredawgs story through both C&C trucks, outfitting, and now the module experiment.

 

[brillmtb]

Wiredawg, If I didnt know better I would think you work with them, own the company or are related. I am glad its working for you but after more research as i am no expert I think the smarty outdoes them all based on all reports of people using many tuners and does so in a way to not exceed OEM rail pressure but being able to modify other aspects of fueling, etc. In the end replacing my injectors prematurely is way more expensive but only time will tell.

 

[Wiredawg]

Ron,

We're good. I just found myself going too far off topic for this thread about adding power.

I've learned more about 4th Gen trucks and motors, the PCM function, and emissions
emissions. I'm not concerned about my warranty because I'm careful, I'm conservative driver, and have always been honest with my Ram dealer. If/when I take my truck in for service, usually transmission, the module will be on the truck. I don't anticipate problems with this upgrade, but if I do I'll work with the vendor to fix it or remove it. There is so much engine, emissions, and transmission monitoring going on, I'm confident I wont hurt this truck.

thanks for sharing your info and please keep doing so. Knowledge is power.

Ron

 

[Wiredawg]

Brillmtb,

Search my name on the TDR and find how many performance upgrades I shared results about, In all 4 generations of trucks.

I've owned three Smartys, if you read the posts on those trucks, you would think I was in business with them because I thought it was a good product and shared my experiences about it. Also, I reported highly on the Edge Tow Pro 2nd and 3rd Gen.

I would have gone with Smarty too again, but didn't get response on two tries to Mads website on this truck and once on the last truck I still had the Smarty on. So, it was a no go with that poor service after owning three Smartys.

The module I'm using is only new to Ram Cab and Chassis, not other Rams. I did read a lot about it and decided to try it. They promptly replied to my questions and had a telcon about emissions with them. I'm only posting to share a potential solution as I did about Edge and Smarty before. It wont bother me whether any one bothers to try one or not or any of the other upgrades I've shared.

So, hope your upgrade works out and you report your experience with it.

Ron

 

[Wiredawg]

Friends,
Been a while since I posted on my experience with this module.
1. 90 hp level 4: I ran 180 miles solo and saw a .6 mpg increase. My truck weighs 12.2K lbs solo, so I don't drive it hard. Driving impressions were good power on the bottom and middle.

2. 60 hp level 3: Pulled 5th wheel 450 miles minor grade without any difference in mpg. Acceleration also improved on the bottom and middle. I mentioned before I live near interstate 10 in TX, and no accelaration lanes. I like getting up to speed faster. Gauges didn't read in increases in temps, so good on that.

Me and three friends took my 5500 almost 1000 miles in two days solo on a quick turn fishing trip. I didn't see any mpg improvements, but not surprised driving 75 and 80 mph with 4.88s. Power was solid as previously reported, but with my gearing, anytime I'm over 70 mph, mpg suffers.

3. 30 hp, level 2: I haven't tested this yet, but will in the future and report it.

BOTTOM LINE: I like the module and recommend it to folks looking for a good low cost solution.

Cheers, Ron

 

[yogg1031]

Wiredawg, im new to the TDR group but not new to owning a cummins. i just sold my 2001 2500 regular cab 4x4 5 speed with 165,000 miles to buy a 2018 ram 4500 C&C crew cab 4x4 60' CA. my 01 truck had an edge juice w/ attitude along with the usual upgrades to support the edge. it was strong and i didnt want to part with it but my towing capacity has increased. im considering a module for my 4500 to get close to the feel my 01 had. ive read this entire post and it seems that the module you installed will do what i want. hows the truck holding up? still happy with it? update, etc...

thanks

 

[Wiredawg]

Wiredawg, im new to the TDR group but not new to owning a cummins. i just sold my 2001 2500 regular cab 4x4 5 speed with 165,000 miles to buy a 2018 ram 4500 C&C crew cab 4x4 60' CA. my 01 truck had an edge juice w/ attitude along with the usual upgrades to support the edge. it was strong and i didnt want to part with it but my towing capacity has increased. im considering a module for my 4500 to get close to the feel my 01 had. ive read this entire post and it seems that the module you installed will do what i want. hows the truck holding up? still happy with it? update, etc...

thanks

Truck is great and the performance module works very well. The module has never set a code and makes up for the derate FCA/ Cummins does on these trucks. I haven't seen fuel savings on this, nor did I on any other performance upgrades I've used. I suppose adding more power and not seeing a loss translates to better fuel mileage in that more power without loss of mileage. I just always seem to use the increased powe

Just a cautionary note the manufacturers and sellers state this performance module will not work on C&Cs. In my case, ordered mine before this seller posted it not working on my truck.

As it turned out, mine worked out just fine and is a good deal at $600. Now I see its marked down $500. If you go this route, make sure the 100% satisfaction return in 30 days.

EDIT: As you can see in the link below, company advertises 45 day money back guarantee.

https://www.powerupdiesel.biz/Ram-Cummins-Mileage-Increase-p/drp-1318ram6.7.htm

I still like mine and still recommend it.

Cheers, Ron

 

[yogg1031]

Truck is great and the performance module works very well. The module has never set a code and makes up for the derate FCA/ Cummins does on these trucks. I haven't seen fuel savings on this, nor did I on any other performance upgrades I've used. I suppose adding more power and not seeing a loss translates to better fuel mileage in that more power without loss of mileage. I just always seem to use the increased powe

Just a cautionary note the manufacturers and sellers state this performance module will not work on C&Cs. In my case, ordered mine before this seller posted it not working on my truck.

As it turned out, mine worked out just fine and is a good deal at $600. Now I see its marked down $500. If you go this route, make sure the 100% satisfaction return in 30 days.

EDIT: As you can see in the link below, company advertises 45 day money back guarantee.

https://www.powerupdiesel.biz/Ram-Cummins-Mileage-Increase-p/drp-1318ram6.7.htm

I still like mine and still recommend it.

Cheers, Ron

I emailed them , asking about my 4500 C&C. They haven’t replied yet.

 

[Wiredawg]

I emailed them , asking about my 4500 C&C. They haven’t replied yet.

It seems there's not a lot of interest in the performance module business to complete development on C&Cs. I guess I lucked out mine works fine. If you didn't know already, 2013 to 2018 Cummins engines in C&Cs have a different cam and different fueling.

Anyway, hope you get hooked up.

Cheers, Ron

 

[yogg1031]

It seems there's not a lot of interest in the performance module business to complete development on C&Cs. I guess I lucked out mine works fine. If you didn't know already, 2013 to 2018 Cummins engines in C&Cs have a different cam and different fueling.

Anyway, hope you get hooked up.

Cheers, Ron

they responded to my email. they talk as if the C&C version is in the works. ive heard some talk on the stryker module, do u have any thoughts on it?

 

[Wiredawg]

they responded to my email. they talk as if the C&C version is in the works. ive heard some talk on the stryker module, do u have any thoughts on it?

I do have a thought about it if you are inclined: tell them you know someone who has a 2017 Ram 5500 C&C who as a performance module that works great without codes. Are they willing to sell you one with the understanding tst you can return it for a full refund if you have any problems or not happy. It installs in 20 to 30 minutes, has an install video, and if ike me,you have a low cost performance upgrade.

Anyhoo, hope that helps.

Cheers, Ron

 

[R.Taylor]

I went with a Pedal Commander on my 2018 2500 MC, The difference was day and night... And it just plugs in between the gas pedal. Made it feel like I had a Smarty plugged in and on SW3.

 

[Wiredawg]

I went with a Pedal Commander on my 2018 2500 MC, The difference was day and night... And it just plugs in between the gas pedal. Made it feel like I had a Smarty plugged in and on SW3.

RT,

The thing is C&Cs are derated 2013 to 2018 to 325 HP/750TQ... your 2018 P/U had more HP/TQ and was likely lighter. I agree pedal boosters are good, but they don't increase HP/TQ. 385HP/870TQ is a nice increase, don't lose fuel mileage, and is nice throughout the powerband. Wow, you really went through some trucks: 2018 Ram 2500 MC, 2019 F250, and 2019 Ram MC 3500.

Cheers, Ron