My BIL's New 2019 F250 CC 4x4

[Wiredawg]

Friends,

My BIL just received his new 2019 F250, custom ordered with utility bed and supplemental rear air suspension.

Rode great, shifted smoothly, quiet, good power, strong AC. The EB stays in mode you left it last at startup and it has great braking power. Has 8 auxiliary switches, 2 are 50 amps, some are 30 amps, and are on roof console above rearview mirror.

Overall, nice rig, appears good fit and finish inside and out. The oil filter is easy to reach, but forgot to look for fuel filters.

Cheers, Ron

 

[AH64ID]

Is the air suspension OEM or aftermarket?

I’m a little surprised he put that bed on a F-250, but that’s assuming it’s for work use. Different laws regarding GVWR for commercial use.

 

[Wiredawg]

It's for work, but it's his daily driver too. He sets up, maintains, and rebuilds Gensets. Its after market air suspension, auto leveling. I would have thought SRW F350 would work better, but all the numbers work, so he got the F250. 10Klbs GVWR and 25.7Klbs GCWR.

 

[AH64ID]

Hard to imagine he needs supplemental air suspension with a 10K GVWR. That’s less than 1K of payload with that bed.

The GVWR rules really are silly with the weight of modern vehicles. Seems like the Class of vehicles all need a few K lbs added to them. Class 2 should go from 8-13K, and Class 3 up to 16K.

 

[Wiredawg]

I think he's going a few KLbs over GVWR.

 

[Wayne M.]

Hey Ron, go back and let me know about that water separator
the final fuel is up over the left bank near the master cylinder.
the cab is all aluminum.

 

[Wiredawg]

Hey Ron, go back and let me know about that water separator
the final fuel is up over the left bank near the master cylinder.
the cab is all aluminum.

Copy. Next time a catch him, I'm going to look close at filters. There's a large aluminum box in the engine bay from the intercooler to what I think feeds the turbo(s)? maybe aux air cooler?

Anyhoo, my curiosity is getting the better of me.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Wayne M.]

Copy. Next time a catch him, I'm going to look close at filters. There's a large aluminum box in the engine bay from the intercooler to what I think feeds the turbo(s)? maybe aux air cooler?

Anyhoo, my curiosity is getting the better of me.

Cheers, Ron

OH THAT?! Next to the left battery? Yup that’s the “intercooler”. The air to water heat exchanger. Don’t forget, this has a split radiator with 2 water pumps and expansion tanks. One system for the engine, one for all the coolers etc.

 

[Wiredawg]

OH THAT?! Next to the left battery? Yup that’s the “intercooler”. The air to water heat exchanger. Don’t forget, this has a split radiator with 2 water pumps and expansion tanks. One system for the engine, one for all the coolers etc.

Copy that... I haven't seen or tracked new Ford diesels or their setups. Compound turbos are neat.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Wayne M.]

I think this one only has a single, and BTW it’s reverse flow. All the hot stuff is in the valley.

 

[mweiman]

I think this one only has a single, and BTW it’s reverse flow. All the hot stuff is in the valley.

Yes single turbo. The original pickups had a turbo with I think two compressor wheels and chambers to kind of work like compounds. They redesigned them in 2015 and I believe 2017. I think they are back to just a single vgt now.

 

[Wayne M.]

The 6.4 had twins.

 

[Wiredawg]

What's wild I couldn't see the turbo. That truck engine bay is really full. I did like the HVAC control layout, you press where you want air to come out.

EDIT. One more thing, it has a flat floor in the back seat area. I wonder if the Ram HDs are going with it. You'd think if it would work, they'd pop the 1500 cab on it.

Ron

 

[Wayne M.]

What's wild I couldn't see the turbo. That truck engine bay is really full. I did like the HVAC control layout, you press where you want air to come out.

Ron

Yup. It’s where your carburetor is on the LRE

 

[BigPapa]

Ford’s done their homework, learned from their past, and they make a a nice truck. I hate to say it but, if I HAD to buy a new diesel, it’s probably what I’d buy.

 

[Wiredawg]

Ford’s done their homework, learned from their past, and they make a a nice truck. I hate to say it but, if I HAD to buy a new diesel, it’s probably what I’d buy.

I have to say I was impressed, but I'm still impressed with my 2017. I haven't ridden in or driven a 2019 Ram HD, so hard to say one over the other. All things equal, I'm still on the Ram bandwagon, but if I ever buy another diesel, it may be worthwhile to check the competition.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Wayne M.]

Ford’s done their homework, learned from their past, and they make a a nice truck. I hate to say it but, if I HAD to buy a new diesel, it’s probably what I’d buy.

Honestly, Ford always made a nice truck. It was the engine that was their problem. Essentially it’s Cummins (and FCA’s) quest for something we can’t understand, and the Government regs that has brought them back down to be even with Ford.
Imagine for a moment, if you could, a 2019 loaded Laramie with a 2005 trim 5.9 tweaked for today’s output. I’d call that close to perfection.

 

[AH64ID]

I have to say I was impressed, but I'm still impressed with my 2017. I haven't ridden in or driven a 2019 Ram HD, so hard to say one over the other. All things equal, I'm still on the Ram bandwagon, but if I ever buy another diesel, it may be worthwhile to check the competition.

Cheers, Ron

My brother has a 2017 F-250 with a 6.7. To me the Ford fit and finish is really lacking compared to my Ram, or Dad's '17 Big Horn that is closer in trim levels to the F-250.

The rear flat floor is nice, but that's all I really like from the interior. I do prefer how Ford does their front axle hubs vs CAD.

I also wasn't super impressed with the way the trans worked, but I don't have many miles on it... so not a real assessment at this point. I also was more used to my NV5600 at the time.

Honestly, Ford always made a nice truck. It was the engine that was their problem. Essentially it’s Cummins (and FCA’s) quest for something we can’t understand, and the Government regs that has brought them back down to be even with Ford.
Imagine for a moment, if you could, a 2019 loaded Laramie with a 2005 trim 5.9 tweaked for today’s output. I’d call that close to perfection.

I'd take a 6.7 with 2003/2004 era emissions and controls.. with the VGT still intact.

The extra displacement and VGT make for a much better towing platform, IMHO. My bone stock 6.7 has a lot more useable power below 2000 than my fairly well modded 05 5.9.

 

[Wiredawg]

Honestly, Ford always made a nice truck. It was the engine that was their problem. Essentially it’s Cummins (and FCA’s) quest for something we can’t understand, and the Government regs that has brought them back down to be even with Ford.
Imagine for a moment, if you could, a 2019 loaded Laramie with a 2005 trim 5.9 tweaked for today’s output. I’d call that close to perfection.

Wayne,

I ran a 2009 Ram 4500 4x4 with 6.7L deleted and 90 HP MADS and to me that was the perfect combination. Before I deleted and after I put it all back on, I never had problems with either the EGR or the DPF.

Lucky or whatever, I REALLY like my 2017 Ram.

We'll see how Ram, Ford and Chevy fair over the next few years... competition is keen.

Next I need to drive my BIL's truck and get the butt in the seat feel.

Cheers, Ron

 

[BigPapa]

Imagine for a moment, if you could, a 2019 loaded Laramie with a 2005 trim 5.9 tweaked for today’s output. I’d call that close to perfection.

Take note, I said if I HAD to buy a NEW diesel truck. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Cummins. All the Cummins variations have features I’d like to see combined into one engine:

• The dependability and durability of the p-pumped 12-valves
• The tuning flexibility of the VP’s
• The extra displacement of the 6.7’s
• The VGT (without the other EPA junk)

To me, dependability and durability are the most desirable traits and that’s why I still have a 12-valve.