Wake up RAM

[Mark31]

If Bloomberg and Killery won, Mini Mike would commit suicide and we would have another Clinton president.

Careful now. Do you want a visit from the gestapo team that woke up Roger Stone?

 

[Regcabguy]

I'm coming up on 2 years of having the F150. I can't speak to the 6.7L or the SuperDuty line. But the 150 is spot on in just about every category. Fit, finish, performance, cab design and ergonomics. visibility, seating position, economy, towing capacity and stability, etc. are just spot on in my opinion.

I can't and will not ever tell anyone what to do with their money, but you simply can't dismiss what Ford is doing with their trucks.

The Alumabody's are very safe in the event of of a rear ending. I came upon a crash where a Honda Accord had hit the rear of a brand new F-150. All the bags on the Honda went off and the occupant walked. The F-150's bed was rendered a hunk of Reynolds Wrap. I've never witnessed that degree of damage to a bed. No bags went off. The bed took the heat.
That being said my friend maintains a fleet of Duramax's and F-450's. The new F-450's have been dependable,even the front brakes which he constantly replaced on the older ones.

 

[AnonEd]

The shortest gears I could find for F450 pickup are 4.30:1...but I've driven stuff that won't even go in to top gear til north of 80mph. I think the Germans have been doing in-V turbos for ten years and their gas-engine EGT often approaches 1500. Then again, Ram/Cummins have never put an exhaust manifold near the steering pump and shaft...

 

[Cummins12V98]

Ford might want it to run hot, I mean they are surely aware of the temps it runs and they still give the fluid a 150K mile service life.

There certainly are benefits to hotter fluid. In the past the fluid is what can’t handle the heat, but that’s not as much the case anymore.

Every trans temp chart shows the fluid degrading 220 giving a shorter service life. Maybe that's old school CHITZ.

 

[Jim W]

I actually like the reverse flow of the cylinder head. No need for exhaust manifolds and up pipes to eat up that heat energy and slow down the flow to the turbo. Heat rises. And turbo’s are designed to run with hot exhaust heat. I don’t see an issue as long as you allow some cool down time. Which you should with any turbo after running hard.

Please explain to me how is that buried Ford turbo going to cool down after hard pulling with a HEAT SOAKED ENGINE. Remember I have been around diesel engines on machines and vehicles for 50+ years. I have seen allot of cooked turbos when mounted on the side of a CAT 3306, 3304 and other inline engines on CAT machines. This was due to poor air flow around the turbo when shutting down even after allow some cool down time. Another issue I have with the Ford is air flow around the turbo. There isn't any just pop the hood and all you see is tubing blocking the engine, you can't even see the engine!

I have been on some jobs were the Turbo actually glowed cherry red from poor air flow which cooked the oil and sizing the bearings up. Just look at the tractors working in slag heaps at mills. I know this is extreme but the turbo doesn't get time to cool down due to heat soaked components. We even went so far as putting heat wrapped blankets around them to help in cooling the turbo due to surrounding heat soaked components.

 

[EDankievitch]

The EMD main engines I run every day have the turbo up high exhaust in the valley. Yes I agree that after a very long hard pull that turbo is very hot. On these trucks unless you have a tune in them that over fuels them they will not get that hot. The design has been out in the real world for just over 8 years now. Early ones had issues. The new turbo design seems to have solved them. The issues that is. Heat rises. Let her idle a few min after a hard pull and she’ll be happy

 

[jacknife]

I owned one V 8 diesel . A DETROIT 8V92 Biggest POS i ever owned . I have owned 5, 15 liter in line 6's ,2 5.9 and a 6.7 Am buying another 6.7 . all were Cummins except for one Cat . I put over 500,000 on each one and spent about $2,500 out of pocket on engine related repairs total . Inline 6 is simple by design 25% fewer parts, larger internal parts . it may not be as fast as a V8 but I didn't buy them to drag race I bought them to pull ! After 35 years 3.5 million miles I know one thing for sure . An inline 6 is the engine for me !

 

[RVTRKN]

OP, good luck on your F450.

 

[CUMMINZ]

 

[AH64ID]

Every trans temp chart shows the fluid degrading 220 giving a shorter service life. Maybe that's old school CHITZ.

Those charts are very very old. They were from non-synthetic ATF. I haven’t seen them updated in 20 years, and they are likely older than that. Think about what gains we’ve seen will all fluids in that timeframe. IIRC the Amsoil we run can get into the 300°s before it starts to degrade. OEM’s, generally, are taking advantage of better modern fluids.

The AISIN actually uses the oldest fluid, and non-syn, of the HD transmissions, which is likely part of the reason it has a painfully frequent service requirement. I won’t get rid of my AISIN, but they could use a better fluid and let it last longer.

 

[Cummins12V98]

AH64ID, thanks for the trans oil info. I am running the AMZ/OIL SignatureSeries in my AISIN. Still looking into a way to do a fluid exchange on it.

I also run it in my transfer case.

 

[Cummins12V98]

So CUMMINZ what are your thoughts on the RAM 2020 IKE run?

Do you still think the magical multi speed trans are da CHITZ?

 

[CUMMINZ]

So CUMMINZ what are your thoughts on the RAM 2020 IKE run?

Do you still think the magical multi speed trans are da CHITZ?

There is nothing magical. I don't know what a "magical multi speed trans is? Please enlighten me? The same RAM would have handled the Ike better with an 8-10 speed trannie.

 

[CUMMINZ]

 

[RVTRKN]

8 Spd, 8 Schmead! My 2019 3500 SRW HO Aisin is awesome towing at it's GCWR. Don't need a fancy trans, but I do need a proven relaiable transmission behind a CTD. Something that was lacking in the stock form till 07.5 and made better with the Aisin. Unfortunatly I chose the G56 over the early Aisin in 07, for my 07 C&C CTD. As stated prior, OP, good luck with the Ford.

 

[Cummins12V98]

The Magical trans are those GM and Ford went to. They did no better than they would have with their previous 6 speed units.

All three placed exactly as they should based on advertised power.

Why didn't GM cream the RAM with the extra 4 gears???

 

[CUMMINZ]

The Magical trans are those GM and Ford went to. They did no better than they would have with their previous 6 speed units.

All three placed exactly as they should based on advertised power.

Why didn't GM cream the RAM with the extra 4 gears???

12V you just don't get it!!

 

[Cummins12V98]

I do get it. I prove it every time I tow. They proved the 6 speed was not a hindrance and the 10 speeds did not help.

If the GM 10 speed was so much more it would have been ahead of the RAM. Simple comparison of power levels placed them not there transmissions.

 

[SnoKing]

Like I said earlier, if RAM/Cummins gets more gears it will be a marketing decision, and not a performance need. Note: Semi trucks have been going down in gear counts, not going up.

I-6's seem to need less gears than V-8's. I-6's do not win races, however then win on simplicity, ease of maintenance and repair. SnoKing

 

[Cummins12V98]

I’m betting if they do change it will be a REAL Allison 9 speed currently on the market.