New Truck Engine Oil

[Cummins2014]

Yep an innocent TROLL

Mod PLEASE note who couldn't leave me alone!!!

Take some advice from others ,and tone it down , and see how that works . Name calling won’t help .

 

[pwr2tow]

Yes they did, and generally lower power and lower constant load.

Also, back on those days diesels didn’t have favorable cold weather reviews so people didn’t run them as much as they do now. The town I worked in Alaska in had hardly any diesels 20 years ago. When I asked why it was their winter reputation, heck the gas motors had block heaters, battery heaters, and often trans heaters. When the temps got too low parents wouldn’t let their kids ride on the diesel busses due to their reliability.

Lots of benefits to the changing technology of the last 30 years in diesel pickups. Oil is just one of many improvements. Cummins ISB’s have always had better than average winter behaviors thou.

You missed my point.

On inferior oil as compared to today's oil so imagine that, less engine technology, less lubrication technology, less computer control keeping engines in more of a over fuel state not as precise timing control, yet those engines still had a good if not better track record based on conditions.

 

[pwr2tow]

So with all these opinions which oil better to use in Alaska? Conventional or synthetic?

Alaska winters a 5w40, 0w40, remember most so called synthetics are just conventional oils being called synthetic due to americas court system. Personally I live where it gets -35*F and have seen colder, I've never really felt I needed a boutique synthetic. Actually I was turned off boutique synthetics from their claims that I personally never seen.
Alaska Summer anything that meets recommended specs.

 

[pwr2tow]

Let's look at this boutique synthetic a little closer.

If boutique synthetics where everything marketing claimed they were ever trucking firm in the industry would run nothing but boutique synthetic, they don't. It's not cost comparative even in down time for maintenance, and certainly if they could eek out longer engine life they would run it. I'm talking trucking firms that run thousands of trucks and if there was a savings you can bet the farm they would run nothing but boutique synthetics, they don't.

Now someone's scouring the internet looking for a trucking company running strictly boutique synthetic. LOL. Yes there are a few, but let's keep this real and in perspective. LOL.

 

[dieselshadow]

For what it’s worth, I lived in North Pole Alaska for 11 years. Had me a ‘95 12v Cummins. I ran 15w40 Rotella T year-round, no issues. Why? It was either in a heated garage or plugged in to a head bolt outlet prior to use in the winter.

 

[lpennock]

For what it’s worth, I lived in North Pole Alaska for 11 years. Had me a ‘95 12v Cummins. I ran 15w40 Rotella T year-round, no issues. Why? It was either in a heated garage or plugged in to a head bolt outlet prior to use in the winter.

Cheater.

 

[AH64ID]

You missed my point.

On inferior oil as compared to today's oil so imagine that, less engine technology, less lubrication technology, less computer control keeping engines in more of a over fuel state not as precise timing control, yet those engines still had a good if not better track record based on conditions.

I get what your saying, which is why I responded the way I did. Simpler engines generally last longer and are more reliable. Oil has never really been an issue is these motors.

The complexity of the engines has increased their use thou, as people prefer turn-key. That was my point, they are far wider reaching and in more extreme environments than 30 years ago.

As far as boutique oils that’s all preference too. I only run standard oils a few times in my 05 and my oil pressure and temperature gauges showed a difference that I didn’t like on dino. I also didn’t like the results of my freezer test, but it still likely would have been fine... just preference.

 

[Cummins2014]

I get what your saying, which is why I responded the way I did. Simpler engines generally last longer and are more reliable. Oil has never really been an issue is these motors.

The complexity of the engines has increased their use thou, as people prefer turn-key. That was my point, they are far wider reaching and in more extreme environments than 30 years ago.

As far as boutique oils that’s all preference too. I only run standard oils a few times in my 05 and my oil pressure and temperature gauges showed a difference that I didn’t like on dino. I also didn’t like the results of my freezer test, but it still likely would have been fine... just preference.

I am used to watching the gauges running just the conventional dino 15-40. I will be interested to see if there is any difference in oil pressure ,and temperature running this synthetic.

 

[AH64ID]

I am used to watching the gauges running just the conventional dino 15-40. I will be interested to see if there is any difference in oil pressure ,and temperature running this synthetic.

On your 2014 I doubt it, as the gauges aren't real.

On my 05 I had aftermarket pressure and temp gauges.

 

[Cummins2014]

On your 2014 I doubt it, as the gauges aren't real.

On my 05 I had aftermarket pressure and temp gauges.

So you wouldn't think I would see any difference ?? I'm not interested enough to care, but thought maybe I would see something. As long as there is some oil pressure there I'm happy .

 

[AH64ID]

So you wouldn't think I would see any difference ?? I'm not interested enough to care, but thought maybe I would see something. As long as there is some oil pressure there I'm happy .

Since the ECM doesn’t actually know the temp or pressure the gauges won’t read any different. All there is on the block is a pressure switch, so the ECM is the same.. as long as there is pressure it’s happy.

 

[Cummins2014]

Since the ECM doesn’t actually know the temp or pressure the gauges won’t read any different. All there is on the block is a pressure switch, so the ECM is the same.. as long as there is pressure it’s happy.

Thanks ,if its happy ,so am I . I sent you a PM if you didn't notice yet

 

[dieselshadow]

That’s so disappointing to know those gauges are fake. I mean I already knew this, but why? Don’t BS me. Give me real information. I don’t want a guess as to what it could be.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I sure don't need a new Mommy! This is plain stupid. I guess it's time for me to start laying into everyone here that promotes whey they like. I usually say IMHO or I would or if it were me or I highly recommend. Those sure get under a few thin skinned people on here. Truly sad. And GOD forbid I even suggest doing a complete fluid exchange!

So I guess I was wrong and thought you may take what i said with examples on this thread I did NOTHING of the kind of what you accused me of. I even told YOU I intentionally did NOT mention GOD please forgive me AMZ/OIL engine oil.

Don't like what I say or it gets you butt hurt sure PLEASE block me! To be clear I NEVER block anyone.

Like I said I fully expect the constant sniping from a couple on here but it's sad that you have started to become one of them. I truly hope you reconsider. Just look at the two that gave you a "LIKE" above. One of them no matter what i say is a snippy little dog that you can't get off your heels on another forum.

So PLEASE tell me WHY when I said NOTHING offensive on this thread you would lay into me??????????

 

[dieselshadow]

I say this in the nicest way possible, as a fellow TDR member and perhaps as a friend.

As stated before, most believe you are a great guy and mean well, it’s all in how you deliver (write) it. Stop capitalizing (yelling) your opinions all the time. Give your advice and leave it be. Don’t get pushy or continue on the same thing over and over again in the same thread. You’re absolutely welcome to your opinion and should share it. However when you start capitalizing (yelling) and repeating yourself, it doesn’t come across well.

That’s all they were trying to say. I don’t see anything really harmful meant to you.

As I said, don’t shoot the messenger. It’s just how a lot of the members see your posts. I can see between the lines that’s not how you mean to be though.

 

[kthaxton]

Constructive criticism is a useful thing. Accept it when it is offered. People don't pick on you because they don't like your screen name or some other arbitrary thing. There is a reason.

 

[Cummins2014]

Constructive criticism is a useful thing. Accept it when it is offered. People don't pick on you because they don't like your screen name or some other arbitrary thing. There is a reason.

We all could do better by listening to some constructive criticism , there has been some good advice, what one choses to do with it is up to them. Sure can't dislike a person because of how they come across on a forum, but you can sure dislike what they say, and that is what is happening here.

 

[sag2]

Back to the question at hand. Factory fill is Valvoline Premium Blue 10W-30 in 2019-2020.