Setllantis crashing what does that mean for new trucks going forward

[brillmtb1]

Maybe Musk can take over and put a small nuclear power plant and every truck comes with liquid springs and fantastic entertainment centers front and rear.

 

[Grumpy8811]

The Major US Automakers (F, GM, STLA) Are Completely Cooked

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/mon...-stla-are-completely-cooked/vi-AA1u6XND?t=313

 

[nukegm]

was just listening to a car show on the radio. the host had gotten several e mails and texts about " should i buy a deep discount ram hd truck " he said no way. said stellantis future is far from certain, and many people he deals with in the car world are hearing that ram is not honoring warranty on new trucks etc. the host does have a fleet ( lots of them for business ) of rams and now moving to gm because of too many issues. i hope stellantis figures things out. i cant imagine being a dealer now. probably havent sold a new vehicle in a year. cheers!

 

[CGordon]

I'm very familiar with Edison Motors. However, I'd like to see them do diesel-electric conversions for HD pickup trucks with warranties, and service centers.

It's a great idea, it just needs to take off.

I think it will but their focus will be heavy duty vocational trucks for quite a while.

 

[Diesel85]

I think it will but their focus will be heavy duty vocational trucks for quite a while.

Yeah, from that's what I gather. It's a shame, because there are a lot of folks that use these trucks as smaller vocational trucks (hot shotters, vehicle delivery, custom critical deliveries, etc). Where they don't need a full sized class 6-8 truck to run their business or they don't want to have the hassle of a CDL. But getting that service network up would take a while.

I just read an article during lunch about Ford doing an electric-diesel system for their next generation Super Duty. Just a matter of time before the big three do it. All I ask for is an easy way to swap out bad battery packs or be able to run the truck conventionally if so desired by the end user.

Not to go off topic, I just swapped out my neighbors conventional lead acid batteries to lithium 48v, and it was easy to do. That's how it should be with trucks. End user serviceable.

 

[nukegm]

bye bye carlos

https://www.investing.com/news/stoc...is-ceo-carlos-tavares-resigns--source-3747964

hope this helps this company from following nissan into the trash bin. cheers!

 

[Ozymandias]

Let's hope for the best, I wish Marchionne could come back... he was the best of the best in probably 80 years.

 

[Diesel85]

I hope that whoever gets in foster diesel and it's renewables.

I want to see diesel Jeeps again.

 

[jacknife]

Well, Ford owns Cummins so.......

No they do not ! Cummins owns CUMMINS ! Just google it and you can read facts instead of BS !

 

[Grumpy8811]

No they do not ! Cummins owns CUMMINS ! Just google it and you can read facts instead of BS !

why try to find out if there is an element of truth before posting nonsense when repeating internet myth ad infinitum is so much more fun.?

 

[GrantP]

I just heard that Tim Kuniskis is back from retirement and is now CEO of the Ram brand. That's good news in my book.

 

[Diesel85]

I just heard that Tim Kuniskis is back from retirement and is now CEO of the Ram brand. That's good news in my book.

Interesting article... Hopefully Tim does something positive for the RAM trucks.

I'd like to see a diesel and a HEMI back in the RAM light duty trucks.

https://www.theautopian.com/the-new-dodge-charger-reportedly-coulda-had-a-hemi-v8/

 

[kthaxton]

No they do not ! Cummins owns CUMMINS ! Just google it and you can read facts instead of BS !

It seems the smilies (to imply sarcasm) did not register with you.....calm down.

 

[Grumpy8811]

personally I think the Guvmint has pushed them so clearly towards the EV side of things I don't see much development money available leaning towards diesel..

 

[Diesel85]

I'm not sure about that. Cummins is heavily investing in their multifuel 6.7l which could end up in the RAM segment, along with all of the redesign focus and prospects on a 7.2l Cummins diesel engine for EPA2027.

I've been reading lots of articles that Ford is scurrying around to figure out what to do with the 6.7l PSD for EPA2027. I even read that the 2025 PSD may not "really" meet current emissions standards. Another EPA lawsuit coming at Ford?? Only time will tell.

It's not just for diesel engines, gas engines are being scrutinized more for EPA2027.

Diesel isn't going anywhere anytime soon for the heavy duty lines.

 

[Grumpy8811]

Diesel isn't going anywhere anytime soon for the heavy duty lines.

definitely not, all wishful thinking from the crowd who think mandating something else will equate to automatic compliance as well as rainbows and unicorns..

For instance my neighbor is an Owner Operator and he drives a 2000 Peterbilt with a Cat C15 in it.. he just keeps repairing it.
his son in law is also an owner operator driving a newer Peterbilt with Cummins X15 engine that has a deleted emissions system.
They don't go to California.
I wonder what is going to happen in California when the trucking companies decide it isn't worth the hassle?

 

[User113]

I wonder what is going to happen in California when the trucking companies decide it isn't worth the hassle?

That's the best way to get lawmakers attention. Of course, as we have seen with so many other issues, many lawmakers today are willing to die on that hill, but eventually prices should get their, or their constituents' attention. Bigger problem is that currently Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington state and the District of Columbia have all adopted some portion of California's emission standards. So there's more inertia than you might imagine!

 

[Tuesdak]

Bigger problem is that currently

Arizona used to be on that list requiring CA emissions on new vehicles sold here. It's changed back where 49 state emissions sometime in the last 20 years. So things can go the other way. IDK if CA emissions and 49 state is a thing anymore after that change.

 

[Grumpy8811]

That's the best way to get lawmakers attention. Of course, as we have seen with so many other issues, many lawmakers today are willing to die on that hill, but eventually prices should get their, or their constituents' attention. Bigger problem is that currently Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington state and the District of Columbia have all adopted some portion of California's emission standards. So there's more inertia than you might imagine!

lets face it, after the SCOTUS made that ruling a couple years ago disallowing unelected civil servants from going beyond what the law actually says, some o fthese mandates are going backwards, one lawsuit at a time. I believe a new case is heading to the SCOTUS now...

US Supreme Court to hear dispute over California tailpipe emissions, EV standards
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-su...a-tailpipe-emissions-ev-standards-2024-12-13/

 

[User113]

lets face it, after the SCOTUS made that ruling a couple years ago disallowing unelected civil servants from going beyond what the law actually says, some o fthese mandates are going backwards, one lawsuit at a time. I believe a new case is heading to the SCOTUS now...

US Supreme Court to hear dispute over California tailpipe emissions, EV standards
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-su...a-tailpipe-emissions-ev-standards-2024-12-13/

I hear you, and yes, there is always hope. But even with Arizona having changed back, what is there to keep them from going down that path again in the future? Presently nothing.

But more importantly, looking back at the logic that SCOTUS used in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization 597 U.S. 215 (2022) (the decision that reversed Roe v. Wade 410 U.S. 113 (1973)), there is nothing in the Constitution that I can find that delegates emissions standards to the Federal Government (i.e., "the United States") therefore, by the Constitution's own words, that power is reserved to the States or the People. I fully expect SCOTUS will be consistent with their prior precedent in Dobbs.

10th Amendment:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.​