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After re-reading this thread, my old thread, and looking at my compressor installation, my best suggestion is to buy the C44031 kit without the air, then install a decent sized compressor underneath on the frame (my guess is it will need some sort of canvas or vinyl cover made for it, and be clamped to the frame some how or another and install a fuse block on the right side where your shock compressor is now (eliminate it) the fuse panel being something like the Blue Sea fuse block, You can make a plate that mounts the fuse panel, the EB operating solenoid, the EB relay and then run the wire from the ECU to the relay and the ignition on wire across thru the firewall plastic conduit. This will keep virtually everything on the right side of the vehicle and you eliminate the old Rancho air compressor.

Its a lot more work, figuring out the details of mounting the compressor, wiring, etc, but you get a better setup in the end.

Charles
 
After re-reading this thread, my old thread, and looking at my compressor installation, my best suggestion is to buy the C44031 kit without the air, then install a decent sized compressor underneath on the frame (my guess is it will need some sort of canvas or vinyl cover made for it, and be clamped to the frame some how or another and install a fuse block on the right side where your shock compressor is now (eliminate it) the fuse panel being something like the Blue Sea fuse block, You can make a plate that mounts the fuse panel, the EB operating solenoid, the EB relay and then run the wire from the ECU to the relay and the ignition on wire across thru the firewall plastic conduit. This will keep virtually everything on the right side of the vehicle and you eliminate the old Rancho air compressor.

Its a lot more work, figuring out the details of mounting the compressor, wiring, etc, but you get a better setup in the end.

Charles

That's almost what I did back in 2016, the exception being that in my case the previous owner had already installed a 4" MBRP exhaust (factory was 3.5"). So instead of buying the C44031 kit (which connects to the turbo outlet at 4" and necks down to the stock 3.5" downpipe), I bought the C44037 kit which connects to the 4" turbo outlet and remains 4" to the downpipe. Then all I had to do was replace the MBRP downpipe, which was all 4" except where it necked down to 3.5" to mate with the factory elbow. I got a downpipe that connects to a 4" elbow outlet, eliminating that restriction point.

I also got the PacBrake HP625 compressor, which is a beast. It can supply 200 PSI with 100% duty cycle. Runs my PRXB exhaust brake and my air bags. Very nice compressor. I mounted it under the bed on the passenger side, mounted a tank under the rear of the cab just in front and ran 1/4" air line to the PRXB solenoid. My next project is going to be installing a small air tank between the existing tank and the PRXB solenoid with a pressure regulator dropping the main tank pressure from 150 PSI (what my air bag controller wants to see) to 90 PSI (what the PRXB wants to see).

I originally installed the compressor with the "required" HP10116 unloader assembly, but after about 8 years the unloader solenoid failed so I designed my own bespoke unloader system where the unloader solenoid stays high and dry. If you can do basic electric and plumbing, you can do this too.

Yes, it is more work than going with a complete system like the C44030 (or, for my case, the C44033), but now I have a bigger, more robust system with all the air I need for anything I might want. And it's been running strong for almost 10 years. Just more stuff to consider.
 
I used my GDP bracket and mounted my compressor in an inverted position instead of the filter. Then I built my own of one of these (https://www.dieselfuelfilterkits.com/2003-2012-cummins). Eventually, I would like to have an ARB compressor…

Also, I have a shifter mounted switch-

And I haven’t ever been short of air for brake operation (CO, WY, ID, MT, NM, UT towing), but have wanted more when it came to adding air to tires. My stopgap is to install an additional reservoir.
 
If you have ever disconnected an air coupling that has more than 100 psi on it, you know how violent the disconnect is. At 150 psi its crazy. What I did is install a coupling on the back of each of my running boards, and the couplings I installed were THESE which as the name implies, is a safe to disconnect type of coupler. You push the button on the side once, and it disengages and vents the air off the hose, but DOES NOT separate from the coupler, push the button a second time and the hose nipple pops out of the coupler. No blast of high pressure air. They are made with male pipe thread, female pipe thread and various coupling/nipple designs. The M style is the most common, industrial interchange variety. I bought mine at Northern Tool.

Charles

Milton ® S-99706 - 1/4" MNPT M-Style ® push button safety coupler has a red push button for ease of identification. Simply push once to stop airflow, twice to release plug. Safety couplers prevent possible injury or damage due to accidental disconnects. OSHA required in certain areas and applications. M-Style ® safety coupler has a 1/4" basic flow size and air flow of 36 SCFM.

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That coupler looks really useful. Does it make it any easier to connect? Is the body stainless, brass or steel? Any issues with corrosion?
 
That coupler looks really useful. Does it make it any easier to connect? Is the body stainless, brass or steel? Any issues with corrosion?

No its still requires a fair amount of effort at the high pressures to plug the hose in to it. I think its just zinc plated steel, not sure, its covered with plastic so the only metal exposed is the threaded section and the very end where the nipple fits. They are made for different types of nipples, but the one I showed is the most common in use, and you have a choice of male or female thread connection on the coupler. The big thing is that you don't have a hose that comes flying out when you release it, spewing 150 psi air on you, it exhausts the hose inside the coupler with the first push of the button. I found some plastic caps that fit snugly on the end to cover the opening to keep dirt and water out. Note that they are rated to 300 psi !

https://miltonindustries.com/collections/couplers-plugs-push-button-safety?filter.v.availability=1

When I was working (large aircraft maintenance hangar) I used to teach new mechanics and anyone else who would listen, that when disconnecting an air hose from another air hose on the floor, to step on the hose with the male/nipple end, and kick the coupler. We used Foster couplings that had exposed sleeves you could easily release doing that. Sometimes they would just release dragging a long chain of hoses across the floor. The place was a maze of air hoses, and lots of leaks. It was amazing how quiet the place got when the power failed, which I recall happening a couple of times in the 30 years I was there.

Charles
 
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Hey Charles,

Thanks for the great info! Yes, my secondary filter mount is just like the one pictured, and I'm expecting it to interfere with the compressor, but I'll still look to see if it'll fit there. I have purchased Pacbrake's frame-mount for the compressor but it's not here yet (not sure how it mounts to the frame...). I would really appreciate if you'd post a picture of your 12-volt power wire setup you mentioned, as I'm like you in not liking to splice and wanting those kinds of things to be removable.

Again, thanks a bunch for the info.

Steve
 
$83 each, wow!. I see how it works, sorta, searched for a video and didn't find one. I only used the ones on the truck due to the higher pressure and the violent blast of a disconnect with a regular coupler. At home I have no issues with disconnecting hoses with 100 psi on the coupler, but do de pressurize when I can.

As far as a compressor mount goes, most would mount with a bracket attached to the frame rail. Pac Brake makes them, ARB and others. This will require some creativity. Straps and bolts across the top and bottom of the frame, neoprene sheet as an isolator, etc.

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$83 each, wow!. I see how it works, sorta, searched for a video and didn't find one. I only used the ones on the truck due to the higher pressure and the violent blast of a disconnect with a regular coupler. At home I have no issues with disconnecting hoses with 100 psi on the coupler, but do de pressurize when I can.

As far as a compressor mount goes, most would mount with a bracket attached to the frame rail. Pac Brake makes them, ARB and others. This will require some creativity. Straps and bolts across the top and bottom of the frame, neoprene sheet as an isolator, etc.

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Charles

Yeah, pretty hefty. Others the same way are half as much as I've seen.
I mentioned them because someone said that the coupling sometimes needs a lot of force because of the pressure.
This is not an issue with the swing system.
 
Yeah, pretty hefty. Others the same way are half as much as I've seen.
I mentioned them because someone said that the coupling sometimes needs a lot of force because of the pressure.
This is not an issue with the swing system.

Its basically a ball valve. you plug in the nipple and when you swivel it to the straight position, it is opening the port like a ball valve.

Charles
 
Thought I'd add two pics of the adapter harness I made for tapping ignition signal from the fuel filter heater circuit. This is a no poking wires setup and I got the idea from the BD Howler kit instructions, as that is how they get power for the circuits on the BD Howler turbo conversion. This will work on any 5.9L and avoids poking holes in wires in the harnesses to get ignition power.

i combined the wire from the fuse with the two from the ECM, using some 1/4 inch wire loom material. Ignition signal goes to the goes to the dash switch/ground to signal the ECM to operate the exhaust brake as it sees fit, and the other is a wire that makes a ground for the miniature Bosch type relay provided by Pacbrake that in turn sends power to the air solenoid. NEVER supply 12v to either of the ECM terminals, as PIN #39 is looking for a ground from the dash switch to tell the ECM to operated the exhaust brake, and PIN #42 is providing a ground to the miniature Bosch type relay coil circuit, which in turn routes power to the air solenoid thru the relay's main contact.

Pull the wheel well plastic liners and you are looking right at this stuff. Take compressed air and blow off the ECM connector blocks to remove any loose grit and dirt and use a 4mm allen wrench to remove the aft connector to push out the red plugs on holes 39 & 42. DO THIS ONLY AFTER HAVING DISCONNECTED BOTH BATTERIES. I recommend using a toothpick to push on the red pins from the pin side of the connector, You probably will not be able to grab them with tweezers or forceps from the outside of the connector as Pacbrake suggests. Push the red pins to the the outside of the connector. Push the correct wire into the correct hole and listen carefully for a click when the pin locks into place. Start the connector on squarely and gently turn the retaining screw to pull the connector into place. If any resistance is encountered, you are probably not lined up correctly.

When building up the adapter harness, you will have to figure out which end the male and female pins fit into, and use a meter to determine which wire is positive and which is negative. I seem to recall that the outboard pin is the positive, but verify it with a meter. The positive is the one you want to tap the inline fuse wire from.

My wiring diagrams show that the power leaves the fuse block as 12 gauge and at some connection prior to reaching the fuel filter, it changes to 14 gauge. The circuit is fused for 40 amps at the fuse panel. The fuel filter has a thermostat inside the black housing above the connector, it turns on the heater when the temp falls below 45°F and turns it off when it climbs above 75°F. The inline fuse is 10 amp, you are only powering the miniature relay(s) and the air solenoid, not much draw from the circuit.

I used two sections of 14 gauge stranded primary wire (like you buy in the small rolls at the auto parts stores on the boards) and 12-14 pins. I stripped the middle of the positive wire and wrapped the fuse wire end around the bare section, applied some solder and used one or two layers of heat shrink to insulate it and provide some strength, so the solder joint could not flex and break. Then I installed the pins in the connectors, and applied a short piece of wire loom material over it, but you could just as easily use some 3M 33 electrical tape and wrap the whole thing up.

Charles

Pacbrake power wire adapter harness.jpg


Delphi Aptiva Metrapak parts for adapter harness.jpg
 
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Greatly appreciate the pictures, Charles! I’m just about ready to start on the exhaust brake install and your info will help a bunch.

Steve
 
It depends what you wanna do with it, if it is only for the EB

https://viaircorp.com/products/oba-medium?_pos=2&_fid=fa68b9af8&_ss=c

If you also want to air up tires or such then this one

https://viaircorp.com/products/oba-constant?_pos=7&_fid=fa68b9af8&_ss=c

There are other choices but these are the basic ones.

I run this one

https://viaircorp.com/products/oba-continuous?_pos=8&_fid=465eac71b&_ss=c


All of them can be installed along the frame rail under the driver's seat.

Also install one of these

--------https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CD8G218?th=1&psc=1

Into the line to the EB valve to keep the pressure at a safe level for the EB.

Ozzy,

Interested in your suggestion about putting a 100 psi pressure regulator in-line to the compressor valve. Did you have a bad eb experience before installing the regulator? I kind of wonder why Pacbrake didn’t include one in the basic kit? Looking forward to your reply before I start in on the install.

Steve
 
Two things, Pacbrake somewhere mentions it that you shouldn't exceed 100psi, and it uses less air that way.
So I just installed it to make sure I don't do anything wrong.
It also hits the components with less force that way.
 
An alternative to my suggestion to bare a section of the adapter wire, wrap, solder, heat shrink, and wrap is to make the adapter and use the provided T tap to connect. You are only punching into the adapter harness, which is easily repaired or replaced if needed.

You have a lot of leeway, depending on your tools, skill level, imagination, technical knowledge, etc.

If your existing compressor is over 150 psi, a regulator is really a necessity. At 150 psi, having a regulat that holds 110 or so is a nicety though.

Charles
 
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