01 Cumnins into my Warlock boat

[LakeTrash]

Help guys,



I started this project over a year ago and had to put it on the back burner to complete other crap. Now I am in full go. All the adapters needed to connect the engine to the ZF Marine 2 speed have been machined and installed. The complete assembly is mounted in the boat.



I think I have everything under control except for the connection of the wiring system.



I recieved help and some diagrams from this board back then but the file with that information has flown the coop. I cannot remember who sent the information to me so if anybody can help - I will appreciate it.



Thanks ahead of time.



Dennis

 

[driverswanted]

Jetta diesel in boat

Can we see some pics? Is this the 6BT or the 4BT? I have a 2000 Jetta diesel I want to take to 175 hp with chipping and injectors and drop in a 20-23' boat. I need to figure if it's better to come off the engine flywheel or use the transaxle output with a welded up differential. Maybe a universal joint off the flywheel right to the alpha or bravo drive.

Did you buy that road to marine engine conversion kit out of Texas for the exchangers?

 

[LakeTrash]

The boat is 31'. The engine is out of a 2001 pickup. It has 12K on the odometer.



The ZF transmission was special built for Fountain Powerboats to use on a Navy project. It has an 8" drop from input shaft to output shaft. This works just right to connect directly to the Arneson surface drive.



This pic shows it going in. I am using a flexplate I bought from ZF. I machined the Dodge flexplate to allow the ZF unit to be bolted directly to it. The ZF unit has rubber shock absorbers to soften the shift into gear.



The 1/2" aluminum plate is drilled for both the transmission and the Cummins. I machined spacers to provide the needed space between the motor and trans required by the flex plates.



I have not added a marine exhaust manifold yet. Not sure at this point if I will need one. Cummins makes several marine applications for this block so they are available.



I am using two water to water heat exchangers to keep the engine cool. This way no salt water will be in the engine. The hook up should be complete this week. That will leave me only the wiring to complete.



Dennis

 

[HoleshotHolset]

Dennis:



This repower project is SWEET! Any plans to enhance the power a little bit?



Matt

 

[LakeTrash]

Stock?

I plan on getting it going and see how it works. I am not looking for speed per say. I had that when it was turbine powered. Wife & I just want a dependable cruiser. I hope it will run 60+ stock. If so then I will be happy. If not then it will be upgraded.



This is a pic of the dash plug for my engine. If anyone has the diagram or knowlege of what pins go to what, I would sure appreciate some help.



Dennis

 

[HoleshotHolset]

Dennis: If you can't get a pinout for that connector, I'd suggest that you get a service manual (printed or CD-ROM) for an '01 Dodge Ram... you may need to consult it more times than you think.



As for the 60mph cruising speed... methinks you'll need to bolt on some goodies to make that ISB power the boat to the speed you want out of it.



Matt

 

[AKAMAC]

From one of your prevoius threads:



If your engine is equipped with an alternator it would be better to run it. Not that adapting others is that much hassle but why buy another? I can fax you the diagram next week at work if you want my e-mail address is -- email address removed --. Boy 70mph with diesel engine would be awsome considering fuel consumption on twin two stroke gas guzzlers. I only used one voltage reg. of course. because I thought I might smoke one in testing. You know the old saying about magic electronics, if you let the smoke out its done! I will have to draw diagram for alt. It is not covered by the cummins diagram. With this setup you unplug Dodge powertrain module and harness and wire your relay and ign. to a 14 pin and an 11 pin plug that goes to cummins computer on block. Very simple to do, diagram shows cummins responsibility and where it stops at plugs . user responsibility shows relay, indicator lite and ign. switch. What the diagram fails to show is one large diameter white with red tracer wire that must be hooked to fused batt. term all the time. I will id that wire for you. When I figured that out my engine didnt crank one rev and was running great.



You might try his email again.

 

[JLEONARD]

 am using two water to water heat exchangers to keep the engine cool. This way no salt water will be in the engine

What are you using for a raw water pump? The modern Cummins marine engines require 2 inch water inlet to the pump... . they use a Sherwood 1700 series pump driven off the front gear train... it takes the place of the power steering pump.

 

[LakeTrash]

Each heat exchanger is fed from a 1" intake. The intake tubes are mounted to the transom and extend 1" below the bottom with a 45 degree cut. One is strictly force fed while the other has a Moroso electric water pump. It should provide plenty of cooling while at idle and speed will take care of cooling while in motion.



I have used this system on gas power with excellent results.



The Arneson drive I am using requires power steering so I have to keep the stock pump



Dennis

 

[driverswanted]

design questions

Dennis did you see my PM on some questions about your design?

 

[JLEONARD]

It should provide plenty of cooling while at idle and speed will take care of cooling while in motion.

Sounds like you've done your homework. Cool...

I assume you'll be running with a pyrometer...

Sounds like a fun project.

Jay

 

[skillsaw]

What a great idea for a conversion!!



I would love to hear that thing clacking away next to the gassers. .



good luck,



Erik

 

[David Muench]

Extremely cool conversion. I hope you'll post more pics as it goes along.

 

[mberry]

If I was closer I would help Justin. Whether the conversion or moving

 

[LakeTrash]

I think I took a stupid pill somewhere down the line.



I got the electrical schematics for the 2001. None of the connectors look like mine. I looked at the plate on the engine and low and behold - it was manufactured in June 2002. That seems to make the invoice I have saying it was an 01 a little suspicous.



The same guy is getting me the 02 schematic. Hope it looks like my stuff.



It is comming alone though. All the power steering is in. The cooling system should be complete today. Wiring and fuel are all that is left to make some noise.



Dennis



PS My wife seems to think she should be informed about this stuff and misses very little. I also would need help with the move.

 

[DiTrani]

This works just right to connect directly to the Arneson surface drive.

http://www.arneson-industries.com/



This site will give any gear-head serious wood.

 

[LakeTrash]

Wood for sure

I have been lucky enough to call Howard Arneson a friend for the last 8 years. What a man. Amazing acomplisments and still going strong at 82.



He is the one that got me into the Warlock. Here is a pic the day I brought it home in 1997.



Twin T53 (1500 hp) Lycombine Turbines with #8 Arneson drives.



I will be heading to SanFrancisco in March to spend a few days with him and take a 160+ boat ride in his 46 Skater. I try to get out there at least once a year. He is a wealth of knowlege. If you like boats and are in his area, you would be a fool not to drop by his shop. He loves people.



The other pic is my Niece and wife in his 46 at an offshore race a couple of years ago. They were just heading out to join the spectator fleet. There is no class for him but he still goes to see eveybody and put on a show. I should also note he loves the ladies. You see who got to go out with him. My nefew and I got to watch from the shoreline. He did let us ride back to SanRafel with him. 46 miles at 120+. What a ride.



Dennis

 

[sardoghauler]

Arneson/cummins project

Lake Trash



where are you located. My father and I are looking to take something like a 29-32 Fountain console fishing boat and drop a diesel into it for a carribean dive boat. BTW. I believe the first boat howard put a turbine in was a 23' progressive vee designed by my father and the late Dan Arena. The mold was later sold to Cougar in Canada.



Please keep us up to date on your project and I'd love to see it or lend a hand anytime.



PS. What happened to your turbines? I've fot an 19 foot outlaw outboard that would go like mad with one of those. Might take some seruois plates to keep it bottom down though



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[KYLE4]

That is sweet, good luck with finishing project I'm going to be putting the same engine in an early 80's Kaiser deuce and a half 6x6 with twins shooting for 550rwhp

 

[pwerwagn]

That is nice! My dad used to have a warlok tunnel. He now has a pro-charged Baja that we were contemplating dropping a viper V-10 into. But the cummins sounds more interesting... . especially when we have a 97 215 cummins motor.

maybe I should put the cummins in my 20' fineline tunnel! Oh wait, it would probably sink. :{



Keep us updated.

--Jeff