'03 Srw

[DLeno]

Originally posted by Dean Upson

Yup .



Dean

Dean can you post your source on this? every time I look for information I find that its only the 3500 dualies that have a bigger piston, and that the SRW 3500s have the same brakes as the 2500s.

 

[Dean Upson]

I was told at the dealership that the brakes and springs were the same on the 3500's, and that is how they got the weight rating. I swear that I read it somewhere and have poured through a bunch of stuff that I had printed out on the G3's and all I can find so far is the DRW has 2x51mm vs: 2x45mm in the 2500. I will keep looking and if I can find what I thought I'd read, I will post it. I am sure that I was told this by someone that I believed or I would not have posted it, if I misled anyone, I apologize, must be getting old timers's .



Dean

 

[DLeno]

no problemo. I thought that brake difference made sense wrt towing and weight ratings as well. I mean, if the only difference between 2500 and 3500 SRW is in the rear springs, then how is it that the 3500 short box can tow 21,000 lbs GCWR and the 2500 only 20,000 lbs? I can see the additional payload rating of the 3500 just due to the springs -- if you accept that its better or cheeper for DC to use the same brakes on both, rather than to spec out, manufacture, and support the 2500 with a smaller brake.



But the towing ratings I don't get. If the brakes are no different, it must just be a marketing thing 'cuz there's nothing else in the drivetrain that is "stronger" in the 3500 SRW to account for the 1,000 lb towing advantage.

 

[Dean Upson]

Originally posted by DLeno

no problemo. I thought that brake difference made sense wrt towing and weight ratings as well.

But the towing ratings I don't get. If the brakes are no different, it must just be a marketing thing 'cuz there's nothing else in the drivetrain that is "stronger" in the 3500 SRW to account for the 1,000 lb towing advantage.

It made sense to me as well, but I was wrong . I just got back from my parts guy and the rear calipers on the SRW 3500 and the 2500 are the same part number. The part number for rear calipers on the 3500 DRW are different. The front caliper part number for all HD's are the same. Sorry again for the misinformation.



Dean

 

[dPierce]

So is the difference between a 3500 and a 2500 only the springs and badging?



I wanted to go with a 3500 SRW, but it was too hard to find one setup how I wanted it. Not that I need the extra towing capacity (not even close), but it's the biggest and baddest, so of course I wanted it.



If the only diiference is the springs, maybe I'll add an overload and buy the 3500 badging... . hmmmm... . or would I then just be a wannabe?



Oh well, my 2500 only sags . 25 inches in the rear with 15 bags of groceries, milk and a case of beer!

 

[DLeno]

Originally posted by dPierce

So is the difference between a 3500 and a 2500 only the springs and badging?

for the short box trucks, yes -- well, and the cab lights. and if you're into weight ratings, then you have the 9900 lb payload and 21,000 lb GCWR ratings to crow about if you own a 3500.



I called DC about this, to explain why the 3500 SRW can tow 1,000 lbs more than the 2500 and all I got was the vauge generality that "the suspension is heavier" on the 3500.

 

[Mr.Goat]

When I was originally researching out the new beast I wanted a 3500 SRW reg cab with 8' box, as DC had spec's and pictures out on them. But when they went into production the 3500 SRW were only made in Quads with diesels. I didn't want a quad.



After looking at all the numbers the 2500HD reg cab had close to the same payload as the 3500SRW quad. If memory serves the pay load of the 2500 was 500 lbs. less. I can't remember the towing capacity difference. The only mechanical differences between the two were the overload springs.



A reg cab truck will have a greater capacity to tow and haul than a quad because the capacity of the cab doesn't have to be considered into the overall ratings. So essentially if I have overload springs installed in my 2500 I should then able to boast the same numbers as the 3500 SRW Quad. Sorry I didn't have precise numbers to quote. I'am sure someone will correct me if I'am way off base here. But I don't think my memory is that bad yet. At least I hope not!!



Pete

 

[Ladders]

Has been said before, even if you "fix" it to carry 12000# the door sticker will get you if you are ever stopped or have an accident. This could cause a lawsuit, depending on how well they check things out.



SOTSU!!

\\BF//

 

[DLeno]

exactly. thats why I'm moving from 02 2500 to 04 3500 -- I get another 1,100 lbs of payload and another 1,000 lbs of GCWR -- officially and on the door sticker, for all lawyers and insurance adjusters to see.



imagine towing over the vehicle's weight limits and then you hit somebody and cause injury. you think its all their fault and then they hire a hotshot lawyer who notices that your 5th wheel hitch pin weighs more than the payload capacity of your truck, and that you have 500 lbs of people up front. you're in serious doo-doo.



he liability issues are enormous, and your insurance might not even cover you if you exceed the vehicle limits.