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I finally got a response on 01/20/2005 the Binding Arbitration saying:



The customers request for replacement vehicle is hereby AWARDED.



I have reached this conclusion because I am convinced there is a defect covered by the warranty that substantially impaired the use and safety of the vehicle. Both the number of repair attempts and the days out of service are unreasonable.



DamlerChrysler Motors Company LLC shall replace the Customer's vehicle.



The customer shall select a comparable new and unused Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge/Jeep product (excluding Mercedes-Benz) from an authorized Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge/Jeep Dealer.



The customer shall pay a mileage usage fee calculated as follows:

Purchase Price X 6,479 miles (mileage at first repair attempt), divided by 100,000.
 
no im not dancing in Gas city..... the truck is broke down again in New Mexico, this time with 100,100miles and dodge says nope to any repair! so im looking for solutions while im waiting on my new truck to come in (in indiana)
 
I ordered 05, patriot blue, 3500, quad cab, long bed, single rear wheel, Bluetooth, big horn group, anti spin, elect shift on fly, flat load floor, protection group and light group.



It has been put on the hot list by DC so we will see how long it takes to build and ship
 
You know the Patriot Blue is known problem color. Thin,primer showing through in jams etc. I was warned by several dealers to avoid that color. Lots of posts about it also. Hope the 05 is improved over the previous years blue.
 
Isn't Bluetooth the hands free wireless telephone deal??? Just heard some of the guys at work talking about it. I, for one, am technologically challenged and still using the Motorola bag phone!!!
 
bluetooth is the wireless handsfree deal, I dodge calls the option U-connect... . i just had a loss of memory on what it was called
 
ceaman said:
I finally got a response on 01/20/2005 the Binding Arbitration saying:



The customers request for replacement vehicle is hereby AWARDED.



I have reached this conclusion because I am convinced there is a defect covered by the warranty that substantially impaired the use and safety of the vehicle. Both the number of repair attempts and the days out of service are unreasonable.



DamlerChrysler Motors Company LLC shall replace the Customer's vehicle.



The customer shall select a comparable new and unused Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge/Jeep product (excluding Mercedes-Benz) from an authorized Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge/Jeep Dealer.



The customer shall pay a mileage usage fee calculated as follows:

Purchase Price X 6,479 miles (mileage at first repair attempt), divided by 100,000.



ceaman,



Would you mind posting a "complete story". I have been following this thread and this is the first I heard that you were involved in arbitration. There are tons of question that come to mind:



What was your basis for arbitration?

Did your add-on box come up?

What was determined to be the cause of your engine failure?

What was the "defect covered by the warranty" cited by the arbitrator?

What position did DC take during arbitration?



What other details can you share with us?
 
RTuvell said:
ceaman,



Would you mind posting a "complete story". I have been following this thread and this is the first I heard that you were involved in arbitration. There are tons of question that come to mind:



What was your basis for arbitration?

Did your add-on box come up?

What was determined to be the cause of your engine failure?

What was the "defect covered by the warranty" cited by the arbitrator?

What position did DC take during arbitration?



What other details can you share with us?



This is a complete posting of the complaint, hearing, and decision from the arbitration decision letter:



The Customer states the engine stutters, loss of power at highway speeds, The vehicle has poor fuel economy, the check engine light comes on, hard cold starting, and a power train whine. The Customer requests that the vehicle be repaired or replaced.



Summary of Presentation:



The Parties presented and I reviewed and considered the following evidence: Demand for Binding Arbitration Form dated March 3, 2004; response from XXXXXX Chrysler dated may 26th, 2004; Response from XXXXXX Dodge dated May 28, 2004; Manufacturers response dated May 28, 2004; repair orders dated March 4, 2004 and April 22, 2004 from XXXXXX Chrysler; repair orders dated March 9,2004, March 16 2004, April 7, 2004, April 13, 2004, from XXXXXX Dodge; and a repair order dated November 22, 2004 from XXXXXX dodge, inc. submitted at the hearing with two (2) engine photos.



The position of the Customer was that he has had problems with a stuttering engine , loss of power, poor fuel economy, power train whine, and hard starting since purchase. The problems persisted until November 22, 2004, when he experienced engine failure and the vehicle was towed to XXXXXX Dodge Inc. where he was told a new engine was required.



Customer has requested that the vehicle be replaced.



The position of the dealer was while they were able to duplicate the problem on March 9, 2004, subsequent attempts to duplicate were unsuccessful and Star Technical Hotline could not advise further action.



The position of the manufacturer was by a written statement received June 1, 2004. DamlerChrysler Stated that after all the testing and diagnosis the result is the vehicle is operating within specifications and no repairs are necessary. The manufacturer will continue to fulfill the obligations of the warranty.



Decision:



After reviewing the complaint (s) and hearing the proofs and arguments of the parties and taking into consideration the applicable manufacturer’s new vehicle warranty, and applicable warranty law including the state statute currently referred to as the “lemon law,” and after due deliberations, I find the award as follows:



The customers request for replacement vehicle is hereby AWARDED.



I have reached this conclusion because I am convinced there is a defect covered by the warranty that substantially impaired the use and safety of the vehicle. Both the number of repair attempts and the days out of service are unreasonable.



DamlerChrysler Motors Company LLC shall replace the Customer's vehicle.



The customer shall select a comparable new and unused Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge/Jeep product (excluding Mercedes-Benz) from an authorized Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge/Jeep Dealer.



The customer shall pay a mileage usage fee calculated as follows:

Purchase Price X 6,479 miles (mileage at first repair attempt), divided by 100,000.



The dealer determined the engine failure was from bad injector.
 
Big MAK said:
Seems to me the "lesson learned" is to have the pyro pre-turbo. Better yet; have the pyro in an ATS manifold with the sensor nearest to #5 piston. I put mine in at the intersection of #5 and #6 to get the worst case reading. .



I don't think that the pre turbo pyro would have helped him in this situation, but putting the probe near the #5 and #6 exhaust may be something I'll consider in my 2005...
 
ceaman said:
yes they did install the goerend parts... I dont know if there tech is certified



I'm telling you they don't have a cummins certified tech at Ganley Bedford, they sent me elsewhere for just that reason.



I was just curious to hear that they would install an aftermarket trans part. . most dealers wont touch aftermarket stuff. Did they tell you there would be no parts/labor warranty on the trans parts? Any chance you have the tech's name on a receipt? Thanks!
 
The tech that did the work was named Jamie. I wasnt given any indication about the parts warranty on the customer supplied parts.
 
Aside from your engine bombing, how did you feel about their trans work? They are right up the street, and could be a possiblity as far as installing a high perf trans in the future. .
 
The parts they installed for me were simple common replacement parts that I was upgrading... . the second gear band lever, Torque converter, front seal, and a fluid flush. As far as leaving them to do modifications... . i dont know if they could build a specialty transmission, as mine wasnt.
 
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