'05 Budget Engine Rebuild

[Ozymandias]

Oh, and another minor fun that ads, the Goerend has 12 bolt holes, but flywheel has also more then needed. If you start out with the wrong one it will not fit.

And if let's say 2 bolts went in nicely and you come to the next one and that is very slightly off, just enough so that the bolt won't catch its thread- that hole is wrong, move on to the next one possible.

 

[Ozymandias]

Aren't these the new bolts here?

 

[jghflys]

didn't seem to tighten up correctly. So I just stopped.

Good job! Most converter bolt holes are blind holes., the hole does not go all the way through. Always check the length of bolts you are using when bolting into blind holes. Here is a picture of a new converter bolt for the specific application that was too long. The bolt would have bottomed out and not clamped the flex plate to the converter. And, possibly damaged the converter.

 

[Dysfunctional Vet]

Stop!!!! Goerend delivered you a set of new bolts with the converter - do not reuse the old ones, they do not fit!

(Just installed one half a year ago)

Just checked the box again, no bolts. I'll have to see if they'll send some. I didn't crank on the bolts, but I did thread them in with a ratchet far enough to know something was wrong. Problem is I threaded all of them in. I hope I didn't ruin the threads.

 

[Dysfunctional Vet]

Aren't these the new bolts here?

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If those are the new bolts I'd have to un-a$$ the engine to get to them. Is that really where Goerend places the bolts?

 

[Ozymandias]

Yes they do, but to make sure give them a call.
Im positive that mine have been that way when the converter arrived.

 

[BigPapa]

I’m confused. The flex plate bolts to the crank, the TC gets put on the input shaft of the transmission, then the transmission gets installed and you bolt the TC to the flex plate through the opening covered by the TC access cover. Why would you have to “unassemble the engine to get to them”?

 

[Dysfunctional Vet]

I’m confused. The flex plate bolts to the crank, the TC gets put on the input shaft of the transmission, then the transmission gets installed and you bolt the TC to the flex plate through the opening covered by the TC access cover. Why would you have to “unassemble the engine to get to them”?

The bell housing bolts are buttoned up. Even if I could get to the torque converter-to-flexplate bolts from the bottom inspection plate area I don't think I'll have enough room to back them all the way out. I'll have to look in a few days. Right now I'm disgusted with myself. Guess Murphy showed up sooner than I thought. Heck, now I'm thinking he never left.

 

[Ozymandias]

Don't tell me you left these bolts in there when you put in the motor.

If so, don't blame yourself, such things happen. I once hit an underpass because I forgot the excavator loaded on my truck. So, your is minor by comparison.

 

[Ozymandias]

Just checked the box again, no bolts. I'll have to see if they'll send some. I didn't crank on the bolts, but I did thread them in with a ratchet far enough to know something was wrong. Problem is I threaded all of them in. I hope I didn't ruin the threads.

Same thread, so don't fear that. It's okay, take them out, put the other ones in.

 

[Dysfunctional Vet]

Don't tell me you left these bolts in there when you put in the motor.

If so, don't blame yourself, such things happen. I once hit an underpass because I forgot the excavator loaded on my truck. So, your is minor by comparison.

Yup, left those bolts in. Thought they were part of the TC assembly. Will have to separate engine and trans, get the bolts out of the TC then bolt it back up. Murphy strikes again.

 

[Ozymandias]

Don't forget to grease the center pin of the Converter that protrude into the flex plate.

 

[BigPapa]

So, you left those bolts in the TC and bolted the TC and flex plate together on top of them? If so, it’s fortunate you caught it now. I’d be concerned about damage to the flex plate. I’d check to make sure it’s not bent.

 

[Dysfunctional Vet]

Don't forget to grease the center pin of the Converter that protrude into the flex plate.

I didn't grease it the first stab, but looks like I'll have an "opprtunity" to do it later this week.

 

[Ozymandias]

I didn't grease it the first stab, but looks like I'll have an "opprtunity" to do it later this week.

And just to make sure, the bolts go in with a Dot of LocTite on them. That's essential for the TC bolts.

 

[Dysfunctional Vet]

So, you left those bolts in the TC and bolted the TC and flex plate together on top of them? If so, it’s fortunate you caught it now. I’d be concerned about damage to the flex plate. I’d check to make sure it’s not bent.

I don't think I damaged anything. I didn't crank on the bolts. But I will check everything out once I pull the engine again.

 

[Dysfunctional Vet]

And just to make sure, the bolts go in with a Dot of LocTite on them. That's essential for the TC bolts.

Will do, thanks

 

[Dysfunctional Vet]

Once I get this train wreck back on the tracks does anybody have good advice on type of break-in oil?

 

[AH64ID]

Use whatever oil weight you need for your climate, then change it around 500 miles. I’d use a cheaper oil, and no break-in additives.

 

[BigPapa]

I will check everything out once I pull the engine again.

Wouldn't it be easier to pull the transmission back 5"-6" than pull the engine?