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Sorry for the stupid questions, but I have a couple to start with:



What designates a "W" or a "D" 250?

What kind of auto transmission is used in a '93 250? It's got a "OD Off" button on the dash.



Thanks guys. We just got this truck and we're looking forward to the journey ahead.
 
W = 4x4



D = 2x4



Auto is a 518/46RH non-lockup 4 speed overdrive unit.





There are no stupid questions, unless Gary is around. Ooops, my bad!!! :-laf :-laf
 
Ahhh, don't be scared! You just have to realize that everyone here in the first gen forum either really loves old, rough riding, square bodied trucks or is too poor to have a new one!! :-laf I myself love my old first gen. I could afford a new truck but then could not afford to have any fun.



You'll realize after a little while we try and take care of our own. Ya gotta watch the pastor though, if you goof off too much he will start deducting horsepower from ya.



Welcome to the elite club of dodge truck owners that own the original diesel truck.



Michael
 
That's a good one chk!!



Hey robertson, you'll want to move that dash switch to the shifter lever. If you drive it properly, you'll be turning the OD off/on a good bit if you go in to and out of 35/45 mph zones often, especially towing. It's sooo easy to do and not expensive.



You'll find that these engines are very BOMB-able for the $$$ invested. In stock configuration, they ain't much to write home for, but a few $$ invested they will really set your world affire.



More and more folks are comming into the reralization that Dodge made trucks prior to '94... ... right Paychk?



GL
 
Greenleaf said:
More and more folks are comming into the reralization that Dodge made trucks prior to '94... ... right Paychk?



GL



I'd say that is a good thing; the more people, the less of these that end up in the bone yard! Oo. :) :D
 
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Welcome to the elite club of dodge truck owners that own the original diesel truck

Hey... I like that train of thought. Elite!! Oo.



And here I was thinking we just poor b tards!! :-laf :-laf



Welcome crobertson1 to the ranch/asylum/quicksand/loony bin/... and bombs away!

Jay
 
Welcome CRob! First off... . (scheech... ) where do I start?? Well, you've got the right rig, and you've got the right soource for asking questions on how to keep 'er alive and well. And yeah, most of us in here have a few screws loose already... . maybe that's why we love these trucks so much - we have that in common??

I've got a pretty good set of directions for upgrading the shift lever to the 2nd gen version so you can engage/disengage the OD without reaching for it - you won't know how you drove without it... I'm PM it to you. Awwww heck - I'll just post it here -

PS: Welcome to the funny farm ;)

- Sam



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PART I -



Fellow dieselheads - I've put together the steps for the o/d column lever install, including some tips to ensure nothing shatters in the process!



This is the instruction 'manual' for converting your factory automatic column-mounted gear lever handle to accept the 2nd-gen overdrive lever. This conversion moves the operation of the o/d on-off switch (mounted on the front face of the first gen dash) up to the tip of your auto shift lever. You'll love it, and it takes about 1/2 hour to install.



Mopar Part number: 1-04690522AB. Cost is about $45 from any dealer.



Switch Operation:

In short, there are a bunch of wires on the back of the original switch - one of them is Orange/White stripe - This is the 'trigger wire'. The new lever only has two wires - one to the trigger and one to ground. If you use one of those little blue splice connectors you can tap one of the wires from the new lever (either one) right into the original orange/white wire, and then ground the other wire from the new lever to anywhere on the back of the dash. Be sure to use a small star washer to get a good connection. Game-set-match. Both switches will trigger the o/d, either to on or off depending on what it is curently in, and will also light up the original o/d switch light on the dash. Works great and you get to keep the 'indicator', only you won't have to search for the button!



Column covers:

You will need a small torx bit. When you take apart the plastic covers from your steering column, be VERY CAREFUL not to shatter or crack the plastic. It's real old and real fragile. It doesn't come apart easily, take your time and 'work' it back and forth, applying pressure to separate them. They'll come eventually, but some of the ones that have never been apart are real buggers because two spots are 'pressed' together, much like a tight locating pin on a bellhousing.



Removing the factory lever:

DO NOT REMOVE THE ROLL PIN WITH A HAMMER AND TAP! Use a big set of channel lok pliers to 'squeeze' out the roll pin on the lever itself where it is seated into the column. Put one side of the pliers on the end of the pin sticking out of the bottom, and the other end on the opposite side of the pin but not actually on the pin - slightly off centered. This will not stress the aluminum and will use the housing to counter the force of budging the pin loose. It's tight, but you don't want to use a hammer and punch to initially budge it. Once it is loose (about a 1/4 inch) NOW you can use the punch to lightly tap out the pin. One good smack is better than several little ones. The column doesn't look killer strong, but it'll take a bunch of abuse. Remove the lever, and be sure to note how the little return spring is aligned at the base of the lever. You will want to place the new lever in exactly the same location.



Installing the new o/d lever:

The new lever hooks right in place of the old one. Take note of the position of the original lever in relation to the little return spring (when you pull back on the lever to go into gear it automatically returns to the rearward position via this spring - you'll see it). Once you get the lever to where it looks like it's in, it really isn't. The return spring will be on the back side of the tip of the lever. You'll have to 'convince' it to go in, and when it does you'll know it. Once in place reinstall the roll pin, pointy end down, and squeeze it back in its seat with the channel loc's again.



PART II -



Wiring:

Cut the end plug off of the new lever wires and 'peel' the two wires apart leaving about 4" worth of single wire each. They're really thin, but my truck hasn't burned down yet so I guess it's 'ok'. Pastor Bob, Mark, yer's still in one piece? Anyway, find the orange/white stripe 'feed' wire on the original switch and 'splice' it into either of the new lever wires. The little blue plastic splice connectors work best. You will typically have to add a 6" length wire to the new trigger and ground wires to make the swap have plenty of slack. Slack is good - you can always zip tie it up if you have too much. Now attach the other new wire to ground somewhere most convenient on the inside of your dash. Once you have the wiring hooked up, turn your key to run, not start, and hit the switch. Since our rigs default the o/d operation to 'on', when you hit the switch the [o/d-off] light should illuminate. If the [o/d off] light doesn't come on and the [cargo] light does, go get a beer and try again 'cause ya gots yer wiring a bit jacked up. If the [o/d-off] light comes on, go get two beers and celebrate your wiring prowess! Once celebrations and high-5's are complete, go ahead and put the column back together. If no one is there to celebrate with you, just high-5 yerself on the forehead.



Reassembly of the column covers:

Put the covers back together in reverse order of dissassembly. You might want to slightly hog out the centering hole for the alignment pins - they'll just make you mad again if you ever have to remove them again (I found out some kewl stuff about 2nd gen column pods, so stay tuned about these little plastic covers). DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN THE SCREWS - they strip easily.



Driving:

Like I need to explain this part. Yer rig will 'feel' like a new one now - Hey, at least it's a Mopar lever that you installed!



Any problems give me a holler or reply. It works great and is much easier to operate.



Hope this all helps y'all - see ya later!

- Sambo
 
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That is a super sharp first gen :cool: . Is you son going to be grown up enough to have something that nice? Sure hate to see it taken care of like the 84 rabbit diesel I used to drive when I was 16. :eek:



Welcome to the club, and once again that is a very nice truck.



Michael
 
crobertson1It's for my son when he turns 16 in [B said:
3[/B] years.



Uuuuummmmm, would you consider adopting me now?? :-laf :-laf :-laf



Welcome aboard!! Nice rig! And for the record, it's much cleaner than mine... . even when it's clean!!
 
Well, first of all, he's going to be paying for a good portion of it. That way he'll really appreciate having this truck. We certainly were not planning on getting it this soon, but when I saw it and found out what I could get it for, well, I couldn't NOT get it! This is exactly what he wanted, except he might have preferred a 5 speed. He goes to all the RMTDR events with me, so he definitely appreciates a fine 1st gen. He loves the sound , the ride and the "old school" nature of 1st gens. He says my '04. 5 is too quiet.



Thanks for the kind words. This is going to be great.
 
Sounds like you are raising your boy right!! I admit my dad raised me right too, but driving something I hated wasn't a very good combo. I'm glad you have confidence in your son owning a nice truck. The though always comes to mind of the guys that their parents bought them really nice vehicles, and they beat the crap out of them and ended up wrecking them, only to get another one.



I drove the same car for 4 years, then my sister another 3 and my brother another 3. We all hated the car, and we all have to admit it was quite reliable and bulletproof.



Call up Piers, they have lots of first gen stuff! ;)



Michael
 
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