2 micron filtration

[BHanna]

I was just looking at the DDP website and saw this Fleetguard 2 micron filter setup. Price seems pretty reasonable.



Has anyone tried this? It seems like lots of people here use FASS but I haven't noticed anything about this one.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

*2* microns?



MAN, that's HUGE! :-laf



Personally, I prefer the SUB-micron fuel filtration provided by my Frantz TP element fuel filter:



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Here's a used cartridge, after a year's service:



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Lots of flour/paste-like residue captured - and there's 2 ordinary fuel filters AHEAD of the Frantz - what you see, is what THEY missed!

 

[p-Bar]

What does it like Charmin?:-laf

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

What does it like Charmin?:-laf

NAH - prefers Scott wipes... :-laf

 

[CumminsBu]

I have that step up works great, but it you can fab your own bracket you can build it for less.

 

[BLNRAY]

you can get the ff5320 and the filter head from fleetguard the filter is used on ISL and ISC engines theres also a water seperator primary filter used on these engines that comes with a water in fuel sensor in it

 

[JBonpua]

Remember the Fleetguard FF5320 IS NOT a 2 micron but a 5 micron absolute as you can see from the attached spec sheet. If you want a true 2 micron get the CAT1R-0750 or the huge 1R-0749. As you can see from my setup I used both in series.

 

[seafish]

Remember the Fleetguard FF5320 IS NOT a 2 micron but a 5 micron absolute as you can see from the attached spec sheet. If you want a true 2 micron get the CAT1R-0750 or the huge 1R-0749. As you can see from my setup I used both in series.

Nice and clean and tight installations !!!



Did you have that bracket for the engine mount, dual filters made up custom??



Didn't you have a write up on it on another thread here??



Can you post a link??



Thanks

 

[JBonpua]

Nice and clean and tight installations !!!

Did you have that bracket for the engine mount, dual filters made up custom??

Didn't you have a write up on it on another thread here??

Can you post a link??

Thanks

Yes I had it custom made by a metal fabricator. I made a template out of cardboard and made sure it cleared the hood when closed. It barely clears. The reason I designed the bracket is to facilitate easy filter change whe I did not have to go under the truck to change it.

You must be thinking about my post on #7? https://www.turbodieselregister.com...ine-mounted-cat-2-micron-water-separator.html I have rerouted the lines since this pic was taken and now it looks like what you see above. I'm using garden hose size -12AN hoses too.

If you are going to May Madness this week you will see my setup. Let me know if you have any question.

 

[BHanna]

Thanks for all the replies. I was tempted by that one in the first post because it claimed to work with the stock lift pump but it looks like it won't really give you 2 micron filtration. If it's really only 5, I guess I'll pass since that's only marginally better than the 7 micron canister.

For the Frantz and Cat systems, did you guys have to upgrade the lift pump? I'm guessing the restriction on those systems would make that necessary but I'm still trying to learn about these things. I'm going to get some new injectors but want to get a good filter setup in place first.

 

[JBonpua]

I'm still running stock lift pump and getting 9 PSI and at WOT it will pull as low as 5-6 PSI. As long as you monitor your gauge and the health of your filters you can get away with a stock lift pump.

 

[cerberusiam]

Thanks for all the replies. I was tempted by that one in the first post because it claimed to work with the stock lift pump but it looks like it won't really give you 2 micron filtration.

You can use the GDP kit in your first post as the base then install a CAT IR filter on it for full 2 micorn filtration, that is what a lot have done. Several have installed it with the OE in-tank pump with good results on pressure.

 

[Regcabguy]

I'm still running stock lift pump and getting 9 PSI and at WOT it will pull as low as 5-6 PSI. As long as you monitor your gauge and the health of your filters you can get away with a stock lift pump.

Are you keeping Smarty on a lower level?

 

[JBonpua]

I have mine set on SW 6. I hate the timing rattle on odd SW. Well I'm leaving now for May Madness. Hope to see some of you there. :-laf

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Thanks for all the replies. I was tempted by that one in the first post because it claimed to work with the stock lift pump but it looks like it won't really give you 2 micron filtration. If it's really only 5, I guess I'll pass since that's only marginally better than the 7 micron canister.



For the Frantz and Cat systems, did you guys have to upgrade the lift pump? I'm guessing the restriction on those systems would make that necessary but I'm still trying to learn about these things. I'm going to get some new injectors but want to get a good filter setup in place first.

YUP - I'm using the Walbro high PSI/high volume helper pump down on the frame rail, along with a homemade PSI regulator and bypass back to the tank - already had that installed before the Frantz fuel filter, so no changes needed for it's use.



But it's true, an efficient filtration setup providing low/sub-micron filtration WILL be restrictive to flow, unless it is physically huge and difficult to find unobtrusive mounting space for...



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[BHanna]

Sorry for one more question. The replies on using the OE lift pump look like they assumed I have an in-tank pump but I have the firewall mounted one (and was planning to keep it that way). Is that one still enough to feed a Cat 2 micron filter?

I guess I could upgrade and sell off my spare firewall mounted pump if I need to.

The Frantz is pretty interesting and if I need to upgrade the pump anyway, I may think about that one.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[SandyHelton]

Gary,
What did you use for the PSI regulator? I installed a new filter setup and used the Walbro, but the pressure builds very fast and I clearly need a relief value of some sort.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Gary,

What did you use for the PSI regulator? I installed a new filter setup and used the Walbro, but the pressure builds very fast and I clearly need a relief value of some sort.

I built my own combination regulator/bypass valve from common ACE hardware parts:



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Mine is adjusted to 15 PSI, and has held that PSI flawlessly for a couple of years now - here's a thread pointer giving general info on how these can be built:



https://www.turbodieselregister.com...fuel-bypass-regulator-valves.html#post2143924



This requires a method of returning excess fuel back to the tank - I installed a "Y" fitting to the tank vent pipe that runs next to the fuel fill tube - works fine.



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[Regcabguy]

Sorry for one more question. The replies on using the OE lift pump look like they assumed I have an in-tank pump but I have the firewall mounted one (and was planning to keep it that way). Is that one still enough to feed a Cat 2 micron filter?



I guess I could upgrade and sell off my spare firewall mounted pump if I need to.



The Frantz is pretty interesting and if I need to upgrade the pump anyway, I may think about that one.



Thanks for all the help.

I was under the impression that '04. 5+ had the intank pump. Regardless,speak to Richard@ GDP. Good customer service. He called me@ 7:00 PM to answer a question.

 

[cerberusiam]

I was under the impression that '04. 5+ had the intank pump. Regardless,speak to Richard@ GDP. Good customer service. He called me@ 7:00 PM to answer a question.

The 04. 5 still had the cannister mounted pump. The in-tank started with MY 05.