2013 3500 14k GVW ?

[HBarlow]

We have a similar opinion of Ferds. That Ferd blue lipstick seems to turn on a lot of buyers.

 

[rscurtis]

They get the new 6. 7 engine instead of the fuel guzzling 6. 4. What's not to like about that?

 

[HBarlow]

Well, for starters it's a Ferd. Then its a V8 diesel, a poor and overly complicated design. Worst of all who could afford to own one once it's out of warranty? The cab has to be lifted off for anything more complex than adding a quart of oil.

 

[zb39]

14k would be nice. . I am thinking of towing a trailer along with my TC on. It would be nice to have a little reserve GVW. Plus, it can't hurt when facing competition from the other guys. I wonder what the rear axle rating would be on a 14k GVW truck??

 

[NIsaacs]

I wonder what the rear axle rating would be on a 14k GVW truck??

The Ram Builder site says 9350# w/285/60R20 tires... ... 6,000# front 4x4..... also says 12. 5" clutch?? is that smaller than the DMF now?



Nick

 

[AH64ID]

I have been searching for wheel/tire info for '13's and finally found some info.

SRW Standard 275/70-18 3640lbs (increase of 445lbs)
DRW Standard 285/60-20 3640lbs (increase of 555lbs) Seems like a WIDE DRW tire, so I wonder if that's a typo???

Rear axle ratings don't seem to have changed, but 9,350 + 6,000 is still over the 14K rating. Even if the DRW tires are still the 3085lb 235/80-17 they have enough capacity for a 14K GVW.

Once thing I noticed is fuel tanks are smaller, 32 gals for an 8. 0ft box.


EDIT: NIssacs beat me to it, I guess I took too long in reading and typing.

 

[EGroeneveld]

20'' dually rims would be nice. At SEMA is suppose to be the release of some 20'' dually rims. That would be cool if RAM was first to offer them from the factory. Bonus points if they are ALCOA rims. They'll allow more options for guys with dually. I found this out from my local Les Schwab tire dealer when I was asking about upgrading to higher rated 17'' rims or moving up to 19. 5'' rims. Basically was told if I could wait until early November Eagle (and others) should have some 20'' dually rims that will allow airing down (on the sand) and more options then the 19. 5'' rims. Toyo Mud Terrains is what I want



The factory dually rims are stamped and rated at 2,750 each. 2,750*4 = 11,000. The tires for dually applications are slightly higher.



I really wish the rear axle rating would be above 10K for us heavy truck camper guys.



I've got 35K miles on my factory tires and need to replace them before I drive in snow/ice. If this was summer I'd use them another 15k miles... .

 

[AH64ID]

The rear axle rating is not derived from the axle. AAM rates the axle at 10,912lbs, so Dodge/Ram is limiting the number based on frame/suspension/random number.

I didn't know that about the rims, they will have to be upgraded for the front axle.

 

[zb39]

Is the 10,912 number for all 4th gens... ... ... ... ... ...

 

[AH64ID]

Is the 10,912 number for all 4th gens... ... ... ... ... ...

It's the number AAM releases for the 11. 5" axle, it is NOT a number Dodge uses.

 

[zb39]

Well, that makes me feel a little better.

 

[CUMMINZ]

Another specification I noted is the location of the center of gravity figures in the Dimension A Camper Loading column. My Lance camper center of gravity is 59". Going to the chart and looking at a Longhorn Limited 4x4 Crew Cab 8' bed 6. 7L (second and third row from the bottom of the chart) it recommends the code Z8H012300 (Dimension A @ 70. 53" maximum) which I presume is 12,300-lbs GVWR. Code Z8M014000 (14,000-lbs GVWR?) Dimension A is limited to 47. 65" maximum. Why does the higher GVWR require the camper center of gravity further to the rear which translates to less loading of the front axle? Maybe when the full specifications are available, we'll get more answers.



Bill

Bill, I think this measurement starts at the rear of the truck not the front of bed.

 

[AH64ID]

Did anyone else notice the dual alternators?

 

[NIsaacs]

It was mentioned in post #45 in the 2013 Ram HD's announced at Texas State Fair thread but no discusion was brought up. It might just be a picture of a special use type vehicle such as an Ambulance?



Nick

 

[Bill Stockard]

Bill, I think this measurement starts at the rear of the truck not the front of bed.

Yep, I know that... maybe I didn't make it clear in my post.



Bill

 

[AH64ID]

It was mentioned in post #45 in the 2013 Ram HD's announced at Texas State Fair thread but no discusion was brought up. It might just be a picture of a special use type vehicle such as an Ambulance?

Nick

The photo I saw was on the pickup site on www.ramtrucks.com.

For 99% of users I can't see the benefit.

 

[NIsaacs]

I wonder about the change to Borgwarner transfer cases, if it is a good thing and why the change?

Nick

 

[AH64ID]

I understand the change occurred because NP closed their doors.

 

[zb39]

Do the CC already have a dual alternator? I carry a TC sometimes and would find that usefull. I would love to see them on the pickup. Of course I would love to see them build the Longhauler!

 

[RustyJC]

The dual alternators have been a longstanding option for the Ferd Stupor Duty C&C trucks bound for ambulance, wrecker, etc. service where electrical power demands are high at idle conditions for an extended period of time. I would hope that Ram has a similar option for the C&C trucks intended for these services.



Rusty