2016 2500 4x4 auto 3:42

[SnoKing]

BTW, if the OP is in a state that licenses tonnage, then he needs to license to 12K, not the trucks 10K GVWR. SnoKing

 

[SnoKing]

Another thing I learned was to relax the TV drive train in neutral and foot off the brake when weighing to get accurate weights for each position.

 

[AH64ID]

To the OP... there is more to it than just someone who as towed heavy saying it can be done, which isn't necessarily wrong, but also not necessarily right as there are many variables when it comes to safe towing.

So what kind of trailer is it? A boat is going to be very different than a toy hauler, or equipment trailer.

Check what’s listed under the chrome group package. Mines a 15 3500 srw tradesman and I know the standard wheel was a 17 inch plain steel. I also have the chrome package. You can also check the Ram build and price site. Plain 17 inch still listed last time I looked.

3500's have to have an 18" wheel standard, as there isn't a way to get to the 7,000 RAWR with a 17" wheel/tire.

The standard wheel on a 2500 tradesman is a 17", with 245/75R17 rated at 3,000lbs which gives the base 6,000 RAWR.
The standard wheel on a 3500 tradesman is a 18", with either a 265/70R18 or 275/70R18 which gives enough rating for the 7,000 SRW RAWR.

 

[Wiredawg]

Friends,

Nothing really more to add that hasn't already been said. I've been on both sides of this how much can I tow discussion. I have old posts on this site where I was towing a 2000 triple axle 36 ft Travel Supreme with 2000 Ram 2500 QC 4x4, 6spd, 3.54s, 8ft bed with air bags. Pulled it great, never had any problems. And I had folks on both sides of the fence trying to convince me on their views, but I already had my mind made up to continue to tow heavy.

In 2002, folks from the other side (Luke, come back from the dark side, stay within truck weight ratings). So I bought a 2002 Ram 3500 QC,4x4 6spd, 4.10s. Also pulled great.

When I was taking the air bags off the 2500 to trade it in, one of the air bag frame mounting bolts had sheared on the left airbag. They were installed per instructions and with a tq wrench. So, could it have been a problem going in a right curve towing? Methinks so.

So, now I'm one of the guys who advocates staying within all trucks weight ratings. And when all is said and done, maybe some will change their minds and some won't.

Good luck figuring it out.

Cheers, Ron

 

[SnoKing]

Friends,

Nothing really more to add that hasn't already been said. I've been on both sides of this how much can I tow discussion. I have old posts on this site where I was towing a 2000 triple axle 36 ft Travel Supreme with 2000 Ram 2500 QC 4x4, 6spd, 3.54s, 8ft bed with air bags. Pulled it great, never had any problems. And I had folks on both sides of the fence trying to convince me on their views, but I already had my mind made up to continue to tow heavy.

In 2002, folks from the other side (Luke, come back from the dark side, stay within truck weight ratings). So I bought a 2002 Ram 3500 QC,4x4 6spd, 4.10s. Also pulled great.

When I was taking the air bags off the 2500 to trade it in, one of the air bag frame mounting bolts had sheared on the left airbag. They were installed per instructions and with a tq wrench. So, could it have been a problem going in a right curve towing? Methinks so.

So, now I'm one of the guys who advocates staying within all trucks weight ratings. And when all is said and done, maybe some will change their minds and some won't.

Good luck figuring it out.

Cheers, Ron

I moved this Travel Supreme trailer in Eastern Washington for our son 120 miles. I would not have wanted to do that with our 2001.5 2500 4X4. It's "dry" weight match the 2015 max trailer rating.

 

[Wiredawg]

I moved this Travel Supreme trailer in Eastern Washington for our son 120 miles. I would not have wanted to do that with our 2001.5 2500 4X4. It's "dry" weight match the 2015 max trailer rating.

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Hey, that's me, except had the axles flipped on the trailer for level ride. I'm only about 2K Lbs heavier than the OP, but triple axle trailers often lightened the pin weight.

Thanks for the post.
Cheers, Ron

 

[SnoKing]

Hey, that's me, except had the axles flipped on the trailer for level ride. I'm only about 2K Lbs heavier than the OP, but triple axle trailers often lightened the pin weight.

Thanks for the post.
Cheers, Ron

Judging how the trailer was effecting the truck rear height and comparing it to our BH3575el I was say the pin weight was between 3500-4K. This model TS had a 17K plus dry weight rating. The top off we put in at the top of the mount above Lake Chelan. This picture flattens out the mountain quite a bit, but you can see the lake below.

The trailer brakes where not working very well, so I do not know how he will ever get it back down the mountain, as I will be busy if he calls!!!

SnoKing

 

[Wiredawg]

On mine, I believe GVWR was 18K Lbs and empty weight was somewhere around 15KLbs.

Ron

 

[EZeis]

Check what’s listed under the chrome group package. Mines a 15 3500 srw tradesman and I know the standard wheel was a 17 inch plain steel. I also have the chrome package. You can also check the Ram build and price site. Plain 17 inch still listed last time I looked.

Have my build sheet in front of me. Sheet says 18" x 8.0" steel wheels standard in the standard column. On the option column it says chrome appearance group and under lists 18" x 8.0" steel chrome clad wheels. So either way it would of had 18" wheels. So I can say for 100% certainly, a August built 2018 tradesman CC LB 3500 SRW has 18" steel wheels standard and 18" chrome clad optional. Without looking at my broucher that is at home, I don't know if you could of ordered 20" or not on a tradesman .


Earl

 

[AH64ID]

Have my build sheet in front of me. Sheet says 18" x 8.0" steel wheels standard in the standard column. On the option column it says chrome appearance group and under lists 18" x 8.0" steel chrome clad wheels. So either way it would of had 18" wheels. So I can say for 100% certainly, a August built 2018 tradesman CC LB 3500 SRW has 18" steel wheels standard and 18" chrome clad optional. Without looking at my broucher that is at home, I don't know if you could of ordered 20" or not on a tradesman .


Earl

Yes, they have to have 18’s at a minimum for the RAWR on a 3500.

 

[SnoKing]

Yes, they have to have 18’s at a minimum for the RAWR on a 3500.

I thought this thread was about a 2500. I was just playing around with the 2500 2018 build app. If you choose the chrome appears group it give one 18" wheels on a tradesman. Without the group you get 17" wheels.

With a 3500 Tradesman CC SB 4x4 you get 18" wheels and a 11,500 GVWR.

 

[EZeis]

Yes, they have to have 18’s at a minimum for the RAWR on a 3500.

I know it man, but others were saying 3500 had 17 standard. In an another post I said I wasn't sure if 2500 vs 3500 SRW would be the same or not.


Earl

 

[EZeis]

I thought this thread was about a 2500. I was just playing around with the 2500 2018 build app. If you choose the chrome appears group it give one 18" wheels on a tradesman. Without the group you get 17" wheels.

Yep, some said 3500's came with 17" standard. So while the post is about a 2500, references to 17" and 18" wheels were mentioned along with 3500's and perticularly tradesman trim level.


Earl

 

[AH64ID]

It is about a 2500, some info keeps getting put out about 3500’s and not 2500’s. There are differences.

IMHO, I think it’s great that there are actual differences in 2500’s and SRW 3500’s. Otherwise why make them.

 

[beaverguy]

Hello to all respondents

I want to thank you all for your information. The tire rating is one thing I didn't think about. After doing the book work and weighing I'm still 1000lbs under the max tire rating.. I know its close but I do intend to drive slow & safe.
Thanks Again,
Beaverguy is out.

PS
The trailer is a fifth wheel travel trailer.

 

[EZeis]

With a 3500 Tradesman CC SB 4x4 you get 18" wheels and a 11,500 GVWR.

A SB has a lower GVW vs LB? My LB is 12300 GVW.


Earl

 

[AH64ID]

Hello to all respondents

I want to thank you all for your information. The tire rating is one thing I didn't think about. After doing the book work and weighing I'm still 1000lbs under the max tire rating.. I know its close but I do intend to drive slow & safe.
Thanks Again,
Beaverguy is out.

PS
The trailer is a fifth wheel travel trailer.

Sounds like you’re good!

Quick math puts you at about

5400 FAW
6200 RAW

Approx 3000lbs pin weight, or roughly 20%. Give or take a little based on truck configuration and cargo

A SB has a lower GVW vs LB? My LB is 12300 GVW.


Earl

Yes, GVWR is based on cab/bed configuration.

 

[EZeis]

Yes, GVWR is based on cab/bed configuration.

Huh, I did not know that. Had no idea the same truck with a SB would be lower. Only 800, but 800 is a good bit with GVW. Rather have my full bed and the extra 800 lbs, for sure! Then again, I'd never buy a SB truck, wouldn't have a use for one.


Earl

 

[AH64ID]

Huh, I did not know that. Had no idea the same truck with a SB would be lower. Only 800, but 800 is a good bit with GVW. Rather have my full bed and the extra 800 lbs, for sure! Then again, I'd never buy a SB truck, wouldn't have a use for one.


Earl

Most of it gets eaten up by the added frame/bed.

 

[SnoKing]

Huh, I did not know that. Had no idea the same truck with a SB would be lower. Only 800, but 800 is a good bit with GVW. Rather have my full bed and the extra 800 lbs, for sure! Then again, I'd never buy a SB truck, wouldn't have a use for one.


Earl

My SB 2015 is 11,700 GVWR, or 600 less than a LB. I believe the new Laramie's are the same. The 2018 Tradesman SB 4X4 CC 3500 said 11,500 when I built that on the RAM site. Maybe that do that because the truck is lighter and the carrying capacity is similar. SnoKing