2016 3500 Aisin poor throttle response

[2016HO]

I have a 2016 3500 with the Aisin transmission and air assist suspension. I love the truck except for the poor throttle response it has I was just wondering if anyone has had this same issue? It is so bad that crossing busy roads I have had cars flashing lights, honking horns and even swerving to miss my truck because it just crawls like it is idleing for the first 5 seconds then it will go like crazy I know this is torque management but its just plain unsafe especially if someone driving it is unfamiliar with this truck. I took it to the local dealership they tested it out came back from a test drive and said its not safe to drive but didn't know what to do. So they called the district manager to drive it along with a chrysler representative both agreed its not safe to drive also they said they were unaware of the problem you think they would test these trucks out. I have a 2014 non high output also and it will blow the 16 away the dealer said they changed the computers in 15. Its been at the dealership now for 2 weeks because they said they have to go up the chain of command to see if the engineers are even allowed to write a new program because that is the way it was designed. Then if they are allowed they don't know how long that will take. Two more trucks showed up there this week they said with the same problem. The dealer offered to get the truck programmed at a local diesel shop to get rid of the torque management if Ram would keep the warranty but they wouldn't. I have had 6 Cummins trucks in the last 15 years but after this mess I doubt I would buy another one. Now I have been without my truck for 2 weeks for my business. What a joke! I just got a call from the dealer and they were just told thats the way it is designed by Ram and they are not allowed to do anything. They even don't agree with them and still say its unsafe to drive I will be selling this truck and never buying another Ram guess ill be getting a powerstroke.

 

[Newsa]

Is this the one with 900 ft lbs of torque?

 

[jgillott]

2016HO, sorry to hear of the issues with your new truck. This subject has been discussed many times here before. Do a search using the terms "Dead Pedal" in this 4th Gen Ram forum for a wealth of reading on the subject.

 

[2016HO]

Yup 900 ft lbs. Tried throttle pedal sensitivity booster still had a dead pedal

 

[Newsa]

I've always thought the 660 ft lb version has way less torque management

 

[SnoKing]

File a complaint on www.safercar.gov , as some have posted, it is a known problem to everyone except RAM. Some are worst than others and driving style seems to come into play. Getting off the throttle and back on quickly seems to bring it out. Snoking

 

[mpaulson]

Why does a manual transmission always have to be brought up as soon as someone mentions an issue with an automatic??? Always have the need to justify the low power or something. Keep it on the OP's issue already.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

BD throttle booster made my 2016 a completely different truck to drive.

 

[Newsa]

Maybe his throttle booster needs recalibrated? It has a learning mode?

Mine only needed an initial calibration. But maybe if it sits undriven, it needs recalibrated?

 

[Newsa]

Why does a manual transmission always have to be brought up as soon as someone mentions an issue with an automatic??? Always have the need to justify the low power or something. Keep it on the OP's issue already.

I'm going to go off topic again, because i want to know how MPaulson added 5 train horns to his 3500 without blowing any electronics or modules. Something i've been considering (just one horn, not 5) but have been cautioned against

 

[MJWenrich]

As mentioned, there has been much comment on this forum, including by me. It's the Aison. RAM says the truck is performing as designed/within perimeters. Does not seem to happen with the 68RFE, or least not as often/severe. My throttle booster helped getting me started off the line but not at higher speeds. At least I won't die pulling into traffic and being run over by a Freightliner. I agree, would not buy one again after all the problems I have had that have gone unresolved. Still have a steering issue with mine that they cannot get right. Stuck with this one and will drive it until I don't need a new truck to tow heavy loads. Still like the 2004.5 I have.

 

[brillmtb]

So the comments on the site is that you can get the same result by just putting your foot down more

 

[Newsa]

So the comments on the site is that you can get the same result by just putting your foot down more

On some throttle sensitivity booster settings, it is like putting your foot/pedal through the floor. And it spools your turbo boost faster too. Which I can not explain.

 

[jacknife]

Get the BD throttle booster it is plug and play and does not affect your warranty.Check it out. About 250 dollars.

 

[Hoefler]

I have found, if you mash the pedal, you get very little response, but, if you push down about a 1/4 of the way and gradually give it more throttle, it will take off and usually out run about anything.

 

[2016HO]

I put in a BD diesel throttle pedal booster it cut down the dead pedal minimally but once the power kicked in it did make it a whole new truck. But I don't think after paying $11,600 for the cummins aisin combo that I should have to buy a additional programmer or some sort of booster. Especially when GM and Ford now have the same power level for around $9000. Ram should fix this problem I test drove a Powerstroke yesterday they told me it has no torque management and I believe them it would light up the tires at 10 mph with traction control off, my ram wouldn't do that on wet pavement, it would blow away any Ram. I will definitely miss the air suspension and super aggressive exhaust brake of the Ram with the aisin though the Fords exhaust brake had very minimal effect but at least I won't get hit crossing busy roads.

 

[Deleted member 995608]

^^^^ Welp, sounds like you need to trade down to a Ferd to make yourself happy ^^^^

 

[TCollier]

Why is this phenomenon so different across trucks? I can make it do the lag but it's only for a second at most. And after 17,000 miles I only did it once on accident. I can also break tracktion fairly easy and have to try not to on the slightest wet or loose road.

 

[Ram4Sam]

Why is this phenomenon so different across trucks? I can make it do the lag but it's only for a second at most. And after 17,000 miles I only did it once on accident. I can also break tracktion fairly easy and have to try not to on the slightest wet or loose road.

Maybe the trucks are not all that different................... it's a very subjective issue, we all have a different seat of the pants meter, and different driving styles and expectations.

Sam

 

[SVick]

I have a 2016 with the Aisin and I have no lag upon acceleration or while moving. I have just over 4000 miles. I have no air suspension in the rear from the factory. Maybe that has something to do with it?