215 P-pump Lacking power...Need your input please.

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Hi guys, Need your expert advice. We swapped a 160 motor for a 95 215 recon <rejunk> motor into a 1st gen truck. <92> I'm really trying to avoid BOMBing this motor as it will void the 100,000 mile warranty. But this motor Will not make any power at all. Last trip was to upstate Ohio. Even on minor hills with only 25,000 GVW I was down into 3rd gear. Pyro is normal water temp is fine and 24lbs of boost. Any ideas on how to get some balls in this motor. Cummins just replaced the lift pump & Inj. pump as it has an internal gov problems. Took them a while to get it timed last time out. I'm guessing they are setting it at 12. 5 degrees <stock>?? It is going back to Cummins in the morning to be looked at again. If I can get them to let me upgrade to a different plate 230hp w/o voiding the warranty do you think it would help the power output. It was Dyno'd at an avg of 169hp to the rear wheels 3500 miles ago. Total miles is less than 7,000 since install. thanks in advance, Mike

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92 Std cab. LE. 215 P-pump reman cummins motor. 5-speed, 3. 54, 105 gal Aux tank in bed. Borgeson shaft, Banks Power pack. 12cm Hot end housing w/wastegate. 4" Exh, Pyro & boost guage, oil temp guage. E-brake. Galaxy DX99V, Used as a Hotshot/express Reg. at 36,000 lbs in 48 states. http://hometown. aol.com/hotshothauler/myhomepage/business.html

 

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Did the upgrade include larger supply and return fuel lines?

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'93 LE W250 5spd 3. 54 White Reg Cab
195,000 Miles 09/1/00

 

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Boost sounds right.
>>It is only 215hp.
If you're pulling heavy loads alot, you'll probably be using alot of rpm's quite frequently. I'd re-time for 15 degrees and give it a shot to see how you like it.
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'97 FL60,5. 9 cummins,marine pistons and other goodies,44psi of pure pleasure!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<<>>Charles Pyatt<<>
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[This message has been edited by FL60cummins (edited 09-04-2000). ]

 

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Grey Wolf, No that was not updated. But something to give Cummins an idea to ponder. I really had no idea this could/would affect the power output. Thanks for the info. FL-60, Old School, said that 15 deg. or so would be a great place to start as well. I appreciate your thoughts on this. Its a shame that right now my DORF, pulls better than the 215 motor. Trully a sad site #ad
Thanks, Mike

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92 Std cab. LE. 215 P-pump reman cummins motor. 5-speed, 3. 54, 105 gal Aux tank in bed. Borgeson shaft, Banks Power pack. 12cm Hot end housing w/wastegate. 4" Exh, Pyro & boost guage, oil temp guage. E-brake. Galaxy DX99V, Used as a Hotshot/express Reg. at 36,000 lbs in 48 states. http://hometown. aol.com/hotshothauler/myhomepage/business.html

[This message has been edited by David Phipps/Mike Hurd (edited 09-04-2000). ]

 

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Cummins, replaced the pump unit again. Guess the rebuild guys fell asleep on this one as well. #ad
Thanks again guys, Mike

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92 Std cab. LE. 215 P-pump reman cummins motor. 5-speed, 3. 54, 105 gal Aux tank in bed. Borgeson shaft, Banks Power pack. 12cm Hot end housing w/wastegate. 4" Exh, Pyro & boost guage, oil temp guage. E-brake. Galaxy DX99V, Used as a Hotshot/express Reg. at 36,000 lbs in 48 states. http://hometown. aol.com/hotshothauler/myhomepage/business.html

 

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I blasted Cummins enough in my 1st Gen Forum post on this subject, so I'll not repeat it. What I would suggest, is that you have the TRUE TDC located and the pump itself timed to 14 degrees (if it's not). Have a pump shop fudge the torque curve a bit with a torque cam from an auto and fine tune everything for ya. I'd suspect you'll find some lost horsepower and fuel economy in doing that. With as much as you drive, and the profitability being dependent on these things, I would not hesitate to have that done.

It won't void your warranty, and you'll find that a good torque curve (the 215 HP engine's torque curve STINKS!) your truck will go very well.