Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) 2nd Gen Trany Upgrade Not Replacement....

[Rdunkin]

Here is some GAS for this fire... ... ... Real trucks have 3 pedals... ... ... ... .....

 

[flattracker]

Evidently KKLING thinks my combo sucks.

 

[KKlingbeil]

Evidently KKLING thinks my combo sucks.

I dont think your combo sucks at all, but you just seem to attack anyone that doesnt think exactly as you do. No one is forcing you to agree, but attacking opposing view points is pointless.

 

[flattracker]

KKLING a lot of people read post on here for ideas and ways to better modify or maintain their trucks. When I read something that I know for a fact is wrong or false yes I point that out . If that offends you because it doesn't agree with what someone you paid good money to told you that would be a problem between you and him . If you think something I have posted is false bring it to the top and we will hash it over.

 

[Fred Swanson]

flatracker, posting better ideas and new ways to do things is great, but your approach turns people off. Yes, half of your parts are pirated parts from a DTT built transmission. Fine.

Yes, you can put individual pieces into a transmission and make it work. And no, not every O/D needs the spacer and shim changed.

Can't turn the TST up to 9/9? You state a concern over turbo and trans. The reason people spend the money on aftermarket transmissions is so they can turn the power up to the max, and then some, and see what the truck will do. Same with turbos.

Try to offer insight, not criticize someone's post as BS. y-knot has been around here for quite a while, and has offered extensive insight into a variety of topics. Attacking his response as pure BS, is only going to make others look past your comments, or attack back.

There are other boards that have a unique name for those type of individuals, and the TDR has been great to not have to identify too many on here as such, as they don't stay around long, because noone puts up with it here.

There are plenty of people on here that can do stuff themselves, but I'd bet there are more than can't and look for direction and advice from those who are honest and straight-forward, not negative and slamming.

 

[KKlingbeil]

Very well put Fred!!

 

[DieselMinded]

OK Now if you guys are done



Can somebody who knows what there talking about please tell me.....



What better trany upgrades could be done for around $1700 ??



SHESH

DM

 

[R-N-R]

Well, I don't know what I am talking about, but DM you already know that what you are looking for can be found at Suncoast, Dave Goerend, and maybe BD. Do a search, send some PMs, call the vendors, buy the damn thing. Let us know how it works out.

 

[fox]

I will give you my opinion. I am not an expert but have considerable experience with the dodge auto's.



The two main causes of failure for dodges are low line pressure and a too loose converter.



So, you need a tighter converter and more line pressure.

The degree of ' tightness' will need to match the power/torque you intend to arrive at. Don't fool yourself with more or less.

The line pressure is the same.

I have installed many Transgo kits and have come to this opinion. There is some fine tuning that may be required and this usually requires removing the VB again. My advice is to buy a VB already set up for your truck.

Ask the company of you choice if they set it up with a machine or just wing it.

Also a top notch company will do mods to the VB that are their special mods they know work well. It a company says they use a kit, go somewhere else, because you can do that!!!

There is no reason to do just a torque converter and not raise the pressure. The increased pressure will cause the clutch packs to hold more that stock and this is good.

There are some real good torque converters on the market and some that are trying to duplicate the good ones. Be careful, this is your choice.

There is a reason some cost more. If I could build the best for $100 and make a profit I would and I'd capture the market!!!!

On the other side of it,in my opinion, there are some that are overpriced and over kill.

Plan your transmission and respect it it will take care of you.

Good luck.

 

[flattracker]

Obiviosly Fred you think false information is fine as long as it is presented nicely personally I don't just a difference of opinion I guess. Second the man directly stated he wanted alternatives to a full built transmission I know the full built is your bread and butter but that was not what he was asking. Thirdly the parts were not pirated from a DTT built transmission they were pirated from a flattracker built transmission using some DTT parts. When I buy a part and pay retail I figure it is pretty much mine to do with as I please if I decide to make a yard ornament out of it thats my right too, selling it to someone else with an implied warranty from DTT would be wrong but that is not the case here. Fred all of your post questioning my motives started when I posted my experiences with a TCS convertor what a coincidence. Lastly if you have a problem with the statement about the overdrive thrust plate needing checked because they are always wrong from the factory that came directly from BILL KONDILAY two years ago in a conversation he and I had if you have a problem with it take it up with him, regardless it needs to be checked if it is right you reuse the same thrust plate if not replace with the proper thickness. If that is as close as you can come to discrediting my veracity I'm sorry but your desperation is showing.

 

[jimk]

transmission

Obiviosly Fred you think false information is fine as long as it is presented nicely personally I don't just a difference of opinion I guess. Second the man directly stated he wanted alternatives to a full built transmission I know the full built is your bread and butter but that was not what he was asking. Thirdly the parts were not pirated from a DTT built transmission they were pirated from a flattracker built transmission using some DTT parts. When I buy a part and pay retail I figure it is pretty much mine to do with as I please if I decide to make a yard ornament out of it thats my right too, selling it to someone else with an implied warranty from DTT would be wrong but that is not the case here. Fred all of your post questioning my motives started when I posted my experiences with a TCS convertor what a coincidence. Lastly if you have a problem with the statement about the overdrive thrust plate needing checked because they are always wrong from the factory that came directly from BILL KONDILAY two years ago in a conversation he and I had if you have a problem with it take it up with him, regardless it needs to be checked if it is right you reuse the same thrust plate if not replace with the proper thickness. If that is as close as you can come to discrediting my veracity I'm sorry but your desperation is showing.

I would like to have a transmission that you have made, Flattracker, in my truck as I believe it would be good. I too have talked to several folks who have bought a master overhaul kit and a few others parts, from DTT and built there own transmission. Jimk

 

[flattracker]

Thanks for the compliment but don't build for the public just family and a few close friends too many other obligations and at my age with a replacement hip and ankle standing under a lift removing and replacing transmissions isn't something I can practicaly do on a daily basis there's a recovery period involved.

 

[DieselMinded]

Fox,



They do there own VB's and then I test drive and tell them what I think then they adjust it accordinly. As well as the shift points I think they adjust that with the computer... not sure but If I wanted I heard that this same shop Im going to can make me be in OD @ 35MPH if I wanted ..... WOW... . Not For ME THo



DM

 

[Fred Swanson]

flat, far from it buddy!



We setup transmissions to do a set job, depending on what that job is, certain internals are beefed up. We have a minimum we change, as history has proven that we can fail trannies with minor updates, like a TC and VB only.



I'm not questioning your motives at all, just pointing out your tact was uncalled for. This topic has been debated forever, and I'm sure it'll come back up again and again as long as autos are being upgraded.



I know what Bill tells people to do, and not every transmission needs the shims changed, did I say not check them?, no way. Everything has to be checked, but not every transmission needs it changed to a different thickness.

 

[flattracker]

Your right that I was probably too harsh in calling his post crap it just severly irritates me when so called experts post things as fact when it was clearly obvious he didn't even have a rudimentary understanding of how the oil pressure gauge system on these trucks works. And then his comment that he had forgotten more than I will ever know about cummins just added fuel to the fire. Unless his hair is white I was working on and modifying cummins engines before he was born. Kennedy was president when I added a turbo to my first 220.

 

[SnoKing]

Your right that I was probably too harsh in calling his post crap it just severly irritates me when so called experts post things as fact when it was clearly obvious he didn't even have a rudimentary understanding of how the oil pressure gauge system on these trucks works. And then his comment that he had forgotten more than I will ever know about cummins just added fuel to the fire. Unless his hair is white I was working on and modifying cummins engines before he was born. Kennedy was president when I added a turbo to my first 220.

As I said before, there is a reflash that turns the oil pressure gauge into a idiot light. So your comment about his knowledge of that system is out of order. SNOKING

 

[Walleye mike]

Even though I have a Goerend Trans, I agree these trucks should have three pedals

 

[flattracker]

SNOKING go back and read the post YNOT said absolutely nothing about any reflash, he said the computer generated the false readings based on temperature and rpm this is absolutely false. He states the gauge always reads 40to 45 lbs. going down the road because dodge believes thats what you want to see , also false . It reads that because that is the oil pressure maintained by the bypass spring . As for the reflash that turns the gauge into an idiot light could you post the TSB # for said reflash. Thanks in advance for the #.

 

[SnoKing]

SNOKING go back and read the post YNOT said absolutely nothing about any reflash, he said the computer generated the false readings based on temperature and rpm this is absolutely false. He states the gauge always reads 40to 45 lbs. going down the road because dodge believes thats what you want to see , also false . It reads that because that is the oil pressure maintained by the bypass spring . As for the reflash that turns the gauge into an idiot light could you post the TSB # for said reflash. Thanks in advance for the #.

https://www.turbodieselregister.com...t=117068&highlight=oil+pressure+gauge+reflash



https://www.turbodieselregister.com...t=111744&highlight=oil+pressure+gauge+reflash



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98962



https://www.turbodieselregister.com...?t=92951&highlight=oil+pressure+gauge+reflash



Your could do some of your own seaches, seach is located at the top under discussion forums.



SNOKING

 

[Packy]

Just thought I would throw my two bits in. Ynot is correct. I have the reciepts to prove it. You are waisting your time and money trying to smoke tires unless you go the whole hog. Load or no load, do it right or you will regret it. Just my opinion.