3rd gens quality

[Pit Bull]

Cat, sorry your not happy. I traded a Toyota Tundra in for my first Dodge CTD because it had no soul, it was perfect almost like a Lexus pickup truck would be. I like a truck with character, sounds like you have one. You need to enjoy the experience giving the dealer hell until they fix everything. Think of your baby as you would your child or a pet. If it had problems you would vent to your friends but you would enjoy improving it's behavior. Plus you know you have the best looking kid on the block. Take two aspirins and post us in the morning

 

[Fireman]

adsharpe,



What am I doing about my tires? I am keeping them properly inflated ! Istill have alot of mileage left in them, and I'm sure that there will be many more options when I do replace them (probably a year to a year and a half from now).



Fireman

 

[rbattelle]

My condolences to you, CC, but I have to agree with Timjones on your pull-to-the-right problem...



I hope you enjoy whatever it is you buy next!

 

[BHolm]

I ran out and bought the first year of the newest Ford PSD in '99. I ran out and bought the newest Chev D/A in '01. I now have two new '03 Dodges. I am a sucker for the first year blues but, these new Dodges have been great so far.



I can tell you that they ALL have crappy paint, it isn't just Dodge. I can tell you that none of them pull like the Cummins. The Fords are a time bomb and the Chevy's are starting to look the same. The CTD will likely run forever.



I have nearly 20k on my dually and 10k on my QC and niether of them have ANY issues to report. They are solid and powerful, they work hard everyday, they don't rattle, I can't complain.



If you are looking for some "perfect" vehicle, I can tell you from experience that none of them are perfect. My personal vehicles include top of the line models from Mercedes Benz, BMW and Porsche. How would you feel about a $100k+ BMW that flashes and airbag waring light at you every four months? How about my new $130k MB S600 sedan that was at the dealer five times in four weeks for stupid quality problems? I did unload that car but, quit crying about a pick-up truck with some little hassles. It is part of owning any vehicle.



Bottom line is, I have owned all three brands of truck. I can buy whatever I want. I buy what appears to be the best at the time I need a vehicle. I bought Dodges this time around and I am extremely pleased with them. If you think you can do better with another brand, best of luck to ya, been there, done that

 

[kbarlow]

CC,



There is a couple of whistle TSB's.



Ken

 

[CATCRACKER]

Alright let me say this that i should not paint all of these trucks with the same brush because if mine worked like it should then i would say this is the best truck on the market. some of you can say this b/c you have not had as many issues as i have. i will admit that i am giving DC an ear full b/c of all the small issues i am having with my truck.



Think about this guys think if you did not have this board to look to thats what ticks me off is DC quality control issues and i have had it! when i get the red a$$ some one is going to know about it. right now several people at DC national know who i am for a good reason. if you sit back and take the rattles etc. lightly go ahead just know that when the quality of Dodge increases i am did my part. I will put it to you this way if i had bought this truck form Wal-Mart i would have already returned it.



The whistle is not coming from my a pillar! it is coming from the passengers side. to try to find the problem i ripped of my ventvisors, fliped in the mirrors in,put duct tape all over, unscrewed the antenna, tapped the running lights still have the whislte. this was the last straw and this is why i have flamed my truck.



i am not just getting on this board to make some empty complaint! I meeting the district manager to let him know how i feel and let him listen to the all of the problems.



oh yea if you are saying that i cant tell the d/f b/t a turbo whine and a wind whistle.



I will say this again i should not have painted all these trucks with the same brush! but my truck is a piece of Sh%$.



whistle TSB's guess that is me.



THIS IS MY POINT EVERY TSB APPLIES TO MY TRUCK!!!!!

 

[MUDDY]

Originally posted by rbattelle

My condolences to you, CC, but I have to agree with Timjones on your pull-to-the-right problem...



I hope you enjoy whatever it is you buy next!

imo,,,timjones is by stating what he did

cat said 6. the SOB has pulled to the right since day one no fix



day 1 had stock tires and pull. shouldnt have pull even w/ 315s if tires are good. an adj balljoint is needed which dc and the aftermarket doesnt have an acceptable adj bj out yet. when they do it be fixed. ya get the right bj and ya be happy. i have a slight right pull in mine but tires are wearin properly.



all newer factory paint jobs suck [scratch/chip[thank the stinkin liberals for that]. but,,,,,,,bein able to see the primer is totally unacceptable.



now for my testemonial.

had over 17 dodge pickups that i can think of. enjoyed every 1 of em cept 1. [gasser halfton] last 4 had ctd. totally awesome rigs with the 03 bein my favorite of course. so far in 9 nonths have slight pull right and waitin on adj bj and replaced alt bracket. ya wont hear me speakin as kind of words bout the other brand trucks i have owned. [11 f's i can remember,3 amc j20s and 5 gm]



good luck cat. all fixable stuff if the dc bigshots want ya as a satisfied customer.

 

[y-knot]

You know it's just the way things are going now days, everyone has to find ways to cut cost, they go to poor areas for cheap labor, unitize construction, have tire marker build low quality cheap tires (they buy them in large lots ,over 100,00 so tire companys can run through huge production runs), start deleating what use to be standard items (wheel liner,spares, ect. ) all in the name of the bottom line. We live in a competitive economic society and everything is driven by cost. And with the way trucks have skyrocketed in the past 10 years, everyone is looking for a way to hold down cost. The real losser is quality, form the choice of matterials, to the fit and finish, and alltimately to the product life span. Look at the number of fist gen trucks still out there, dodge was far from being a sales leader, and relatively few first gens were sold. Look at how meany remain of the roads. I would imagin the same will be true of the 2nd gen truck, this time dodge had a rather large share of the truck market, and I suspect you will see them around for quite some time, although not in the same percentage as the first gen. Why? First gens were made better and out of better materials. Same for the 2nd gen, they were made cheaper the the first gen, but better then the 3rd gen. And if there is to be a 4th gen, it will follow the same pattern. Kind of ****'s you off to keep paying more and getting less truck. And although most of us are dodge loyal, I suspect we are even more cummins loyal. Truth be know, if ford went to cummins (which they might after the 6. 0l problems, and the strained relationship with navistar, and droped V6 program) there is problaly a large number of members that would be driving ford. And if a company like toyota went to a cummins, there would be and even grater number that would consider the switch. I bought my truck for the cummins, I have never had a problem (big one) with it, and I have no doubt it will more then out last the truck. May be cummins should just build the whole dam thing?

 

[Prairie Dog]

My truck also pulled to the right. I took it to a tire place I use, they said it was just barely in spec. Well I said go ahead and make it as close as possible and now it drives perfect.

Maybe the specs have too much tolerance.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

CC - just for good measures sake why don't you try putting the silencer ring back in the turbo and put a stock air filter back in the air box. I know you don't think it's turbo whistle but you never know. Had a friend that had an Amsoil filter in the stock air box and I would have sworn his truck had a hoover vacuum in the glove box it was sooooo loud. A good way to check for leaks around the door is to open the door and close a dollar bill between the door and the seal and pull the dollar bill out. Repeat that around the door frame and see if there's an area where it slips right out. Just a couple of things you may try.

 

[DIESELMAN]

Anyone remember the commercial for the New (old) Ram when they bragged about getting rid of noises, and there was a whistle, and an engineer in a lab coat walked up beside the truck in the wind tunnel and put a plastic sleeve over the antenna and all was quiet... ...



When did that $0. 50 sleeve get canned??????

 

[Dean Upson]

When they put that spirally dohickie on it ??



Dean

 

[Pit Bull]

I don't hear any funny noises in mine. All I can hear is the CTD, but my engine is kinda loud

 

[DIESELMAN]

All right Pit Bull, knock it off, this Forum is for those who were suckered into purchasing a truck without a lamp under the hood... ... Until you know the misery this has caused you just won't understand

 

[Pit Bull]

Originally posted by DIESELMAN

All right Pit Bull, knock it off, this Forum is for those who were suckered into purchasing a truck without a lamp under the hood... ... Until you know the misery this has caused you just won't understand

Sorry I'm sure all the 2nd generation trucks whistled and squeaked but with the sound of that CTD who would know it. If I had a 3rd generation truck I would straight pipe it and if I still heard anything I did not like I would turn up the stereo Just trying to help

 

[CATCRACKER]

Steve,



I will try the dollar bill thing.





i drove to Baton Rouge and back today and boy is that whistle aggravating. one last time it is not my turbo!! turbo was all i used to hear now all i can hear is a whistle that is intermittent pulled up to dodge dealer today to start discussing a trade or sale! they said they would give me high 20k's. yea right. i think i will sell this thing to an individual tires gauges lift and all. if anyone is interested i will leave everything on it.



hmmmm no takers, wonder why.



going back to chevy gasser (aint no other diesel i would own)... ... ...

except maybe i will get me a 96-98 3500 5spd 12v as a toy anyone want to trade???



later CC

 

[Beer Man]

Chevy Gasser, now thats a step up!

 

[DIESELMAN]

So, CC, are you sure its not your Turbo????

 

[dPierce]

Shhhhhh!!!!!!!

Don't you guys know we CTD owners are suppose to hide our problems. This is a violation of our secret code to never openly discuss problems.



Oh well, I am still in love with my truck. My only compaints are the rattle in the driver's door panel and the paint chipping so easily. I plan to fix the rattle soon and believe that all the manufacturers have similar paint issues because of the EPA.



Catcracker... . sounds like your turbo to me



Pierce

 

[CATCRACKER]

yea its the turbo... . not





you guys hide your problems that is what Dodge wants. notice at first i did not say to much other than to find out if others were having the same problems. and guess what after i posted my issues people started coming out of the wood works with similar ones. i can do this and not be considered a whiner if i help others who post with similar problems and that is what i will do. what i like is that with this board now the consumer has the power and the individual is not isolated anymore. my fix for this truck maybe to sell it. but if not what solutions i find for my truck i will post for everyone to see. i am sure the dieselstop and dieselpage are eating this one up and i dont care. never let pride keep your mouth shut and let big business continue to charge a premium while producing sub premium products. if the 6L owners were isolated they would have to believe what ford was telling them. and i believed what my bus. rep. said "its your egr warming up" i would not know any better.



by having pride in dodge and keeping your mouth shut hurts dodge and future owner of dodges. i am sure they will have a trucks that doesnt rattle and whistle but only after i give them what for and they lose all the profit off of my truck b/c i have brought it in so many times. i refuse to take off my door panels and fix them myself!!!! dodge is going to have to make it right or i will lemon this truck! ahhh the power of the consumer and the attourney generals office. might just go the easy route and sell it.



one final thing you guys can look at my 600 plus posts and figure out if i am a troll or whiner. enough said