Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) 500-600hp with Marco's MAD ECM?

[ob1kobi]

Greetings,

I have considered having my Comp flashed with the Drag Comp flash but do not like the fact it only fuels to 3200 on 5x5 only. My truck on 5x5 makes a fair amount of smoke making it impractical for city driving. I would like my truck to not de-fuel on any setting of my Comp. Does the Mad ECM offer this feature and if not is there any other way to prevent de-fueling regardless of Comp setting? Thanks

Perhaps Marco didn't fully understand your question, and neither do I. By defueling, do you mean you want your truck to fuel past 3200, or are you talking about the defueling issue that some trucks see at the track?



Ted

 

[ob1kobi]

Have any of you guys tried the Catcher ecm with a comp or drag comp? Have you seen 500-600hp with this setup and a big set of injectors and turbo? I'm thinking of trying the ecm and a drag box with some big edms and the HTB2 turbo. Just wandering if anyone ahs tried it. Thanks

When I originally put together my play truck last year, I had a Marco ECM, Drag Comp, Pius USB, and a set of MassDiesel's injectors (. 012) which are not real big but I can't tell you what the would compare to, meaning if they are the same as a BD4 or a set Mach 5's or whatever. . and I made a little over 500. The truck was very streetable, and didn't smoke a whole lot. I didn't dyno with and without the ECM to see the changes, but there is a noticable difference when driving the truck, especially at the lower RPM's.



Ted

 

[Luke Warmwater]

Perhaps Marco didn't fully understand your question, and neither do I. By defueling, do you mean you want your truck to fuel past 3200, or are you talking about the defueling issue that some trucks see at the track?



Ted

I sent him a PM a day before which I never got a reply...



What is there to understand? Stock ECM defuels at 2700 rpm. Drag Comp over rides this on 5x5 only and does not defuel until 3200. I am asking if the mad ECM can be setup to not defuel until 3200 or whatever regardless of Comp or Drag Comp? I normally drive around daily on 3x5 and would like to not have the truck fall on it's face at 2700.

 

[darkhorse]

Luke, my CaTCHER fuels out a little past 3200 on my tach. Maybe to about 3400. I haven't really tried to find the limit.

 

[Beast2B]

hopefully Bob or MArco or Doug will chime in. I was under the impression a couple weeks ago that the defueling didn't change on the MadECM. 2700 stays as the limit. I agree that the Drag Comp ONLY changing that parameter on 5x5 is not the best scenario, but Edge tld me they don't do custom programming.

The other defueling issue is known as torque management, where the truck will defuel in lower gears - that's what the BD RAD cures.

Marco, any change to that? torque management stays as stock and 2700rpm defueling stays as stock in the Mad ECM?

 

[Marco]

Marco, any change to that? torque management stays as stock and 2700rpm defueling stays as stock in the Mad ECM?

Any change? That's a question...

Fact is the CaTCHER has always taken care of the the "torque management".

That's if you refer to the 1st-2nd gear defuel in the 01 an later trucks.



2700rpm defuelling? The CaTCHER improves that, always has. Yet, it's not as strong above 2700 as I would like, thus I say nothing worth to mention.

I sent him a PM a day before which I never got a reply...

LW, can you immagine how many PM's / E-Mails I receive every day? My main occupation is not sitting in front of the Computer waiting that someone asks a question and I don't always have the time to reply promptly.

So the creator of the Mad ECM will answer questions regarding fuel cost in Italy but not a technical question regarding the product he sells... Makes one wonder.

... ... . Sounds like :-{} to me. I will no longer waste my time with such BS.



Marco

 

[ob1kobi]

I sent him a PM a day before which I never got a reply...



What is there to understand? Stock ECM defuels at 2700 rpm. Drag Comp over rides this on 5x5 only and does not defuel until 3200. I am asking if the mad ECM can be setup to not defuel until 3200 or whatever regardless of Comp or Drag Comp? I normally drive around daily on 3x5 and would like to not have the truck fall on it's face at 2700.

I was simply trying to clarify what your were asking so that I could try to help you out. Defueling can mean two things on here so I wanted to know which you were referring to. Can I ask why you are having to run up to those rpm's on a daily basis? Is it cause you want to, or do you have to in order to do whatever your trying to do?



Ted

 

[Luke Warmwater]

My original question regarding defueling at 2700, the drag comp's ability to over-ride this on 5x5 only, your ECM's ability to do the same or not, was about as simple as it get's. What transpired after I ask that question and sent you a PM a week ago, was people arguing over the most meaningless peashaw one can imagine. Using simple logic it would seem like that if you do not sit in front of a computer as your occupation, that on those rare occasions that you do, you would place a higher priority on answering technical questions from potential buyers of your product rather than talk about the price of diesel fuel in Italy? Your last comment regarding wasting time on this "BS" is about as telling as it get's lol. You may understand ECMs but you know jack about PR and customer relations. I have yet to understand why people who are aholes but still might have a decent product to sell, would ever even post on an internet forum? Any positives gained by your limited abilities to enter into civil discourse is more than negated by your less than stellar personalities and charm. Case in point... When it comes to Marco's ECC... I'll spend my pesos on products developed by folks who understand that answering technical questions from potential customers is what it's all about. Good luck with your future business endeavors.

 

[Luke Warmwater]

Ted, sorry for the sarcastic response. No, I don't run up there on a regular basis but... my truck with the 4. 10s even with 35s is pretty short legged. I'd like the ability to go ahead and run up to 3200 on those occasions I do want to get away from the light quickly, without having to crank up to 5x5 and make a bunch of smoke. I really can't get rolling until I hit 4th gear as mashing on it put's me up against that 2700 wall in a flash. Being able to have the motor pull out to 3200 would add some length to my truck's legs.



PS you ought to open your own ECM business as you displayed substantially more patience in dealing with frustrated customers lol. Pay attention Marco, it's not rocket science lol.

 

[darkhorse]

As I said before, my truck fuels out past 3200 rpm. If you want 4000 check out Blue Chip's Red Line Box.

 

[ob1kobi]

Ted, sorry for the sarcastic response. No, I don't run up there on a regular basis but... my truck with the 4. 10s even with 35s is pretty short legged. I'd like the ability to go ahead and run up to 3200 on those occasions I do want to get away from the light quickly, without having to crank up to 5x5 and make a bunch of smoke. I really can't get rolling until I hit 4th gear as mashing on it put's me up against that 2700 wall in a flash. Being able to have the motor pull out to 3200 would add some length to my truck's legs.



PS you ought to open your own ECM business as you displayed substantially more patience in dealing with frustrated customers lol. Pay attention Marco, it's not rocket science lol.

No Problem These boards can be tough at times. Its hard to "feel" what a person is typing. Thanks for the compliment but I was only trying to help out one person though so its very easy to have patients. Marco is a great stand up guy and I imagine he answers hundreds of pm's and questions that are posted to him on these boards, as well as questions that get to him through his ECM distributors. He may not answer all of them, but I think he does answer more than most dealers on this site. In fact, I don't believe there are many dealers, that deal with a significant amount of volumn that even post anymore. As for the ECM, If you do still decide to get it, I think you will be very happy. Your truck will pick up noticeably quicker and you won't have to ream it out. I also have 35's with the 4. 10 gears, and I am running an HTB2 with a set of DD3's and have no problem keeping ahead of traffic with very little throttle and no smoke. The ECM will make a great difference in the range that your looking to use it. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.



Ted

 

[JR2]

Not to be off topic here, but stock ECM defuels no matter what level your drag comp is set on. Now before you tell me I am wrong, know that when your drag comp is set on 5X5 it adds fuel to make up for the defueling past 2700 rpm.

 

[Beast2B]

Well, after a few days of use, I have noticed a marked increase in the fueling while accelerating through the lower gears. It always seemed like after 2000rpm in 1st, 2nd and 3rd the fuel was cut in half! Not any more! I haven't been to the 2700+ region yet, but I'll post once I do.

Marco, thanks for the replies and info when you have the time. I appreciate your knowledge and experience, and *I* am glad you made the MadECM to share.

 

[rivercat]

good thread

 

[rivercat]

now that every one has cooled off can we continue this thread good topic.