6.0 Powerstroke vs. 5.9 Cummins

[DPKetchum]

IF it holds togather I sure like the looks and features of new Ford 550 I read the specs on.

 

[blacksheep4x4]

The Cummins hands down is twice the motor that the powerjoke is. As far as the ford being a better truck it just is'nt so. Not only is there cab design weaker (as far as rollovers go) The cab about as aerodynamic as a brick. I'm not even going to tell you about all the squeeks and rattles they make after about 20,000 miles. The ride was is not as good. The fuel milage sucks and if you tow real hard the motor might last you 36,000 miles Like my 05 F-450 did. The only thing the ford has going for it is the Torqshift transmission is a decent trans. The ford will take a Dodge off the line, but from what I have seen the Dodge always catches up at half track and passes the ford.

 

[DPKetchum]

The few times I urged on a Ford 6. 0 for a race I got spanked big time. The 6 guys in one Ford with wheel barrows and concrete mixing equipment thought it was funny. I'm NOT a fan of Fords or the 6. 0 by any means but they are fast (at least faster then my 03)and in the way of features what Ford is coming out with is impressive. Now if it will hold up is another story. I jusgt read and swa photos of the NEW F550 and on paper it sounds nice. 19. 5s,tailgate step up,intergrated brake controller, auto tow mirrors,650 lbs of torgue and about a 60k plus price! etc.

 

[GaryCarter]

Been there, done that. Had two Cummins, one 7. 3, one 6. 0.



Re the original post, that's comparing a standard trans Dodge to the auto Ford. A standard will always feel like a slug driving empty compared to the auto.



Right after I got the current truck, I raced head to head with a 6. 0 auto. He lost 3 out of 3. All stock.



To give the devil his due, I do like the feel of the high revving 6. 0 for driving empty. It's a sporty feel.

But when working (towing) I hate the 6. 0 and torqueshift. It shifts gears or unlocks the TC on every little grade. I much prefer the Cummins / 48RE. Once it gets OD, it stays there.



Gary

 

[APyontek]

Why i voted the 6.0L...

And why i wish i could take it back, in june i made a very big decision to go ahead and buy my first new truck, after testing the 06 dodges, gm's, and fords i ended up buying a f250 king ranch, i love the truck aside from the 6. 0L, ive got 9000 on it and it gets 11-12mpg consistantly empty, my 1990 w250 rc lb 5spd will out tow it, my dads 98 12v eclb auto will out tow it, and im sure if my 97 was running it would more than run circles around it. dont get me wrong, aside from the engine i couldnt be more impressed with the truck, so before i roll 10,000 miles im pulling the motor and trans, selling them, and droping in either a 5. 9 or maybe a c7, both will have the 6spd allison behind them. i know im going to get ridiule for the c7, but im not looking for amazing performance, i was a cummins guy before i went to school for diesel technology for 4 years, now after seeing the cat design and programming in comparison with the cummins, im flat out impressed with how the cats are built. just putting that out there so everyone knows even ford owners hate the 6. 0L

 

[JJuday]

My mother-in-law's insignifficant other has a 04' SD and it rattled bad after about 6 mos. Not impressed at all. Fit and finnish my ***. To answer your question..... I would look closely at a FL-50 Freightliner.

 

[APyontek]

thats good to know, i completely disagree with you and your "mother-in-law's significant other" though. i believe the fit and finish to be quite good, i have no rattles or wind noise like the 03-05 rams i was looking at, even though they fixed that in 06, the 06's are just too damn ugly. and to further answer your statement, no. a FL50 is not a good choice, i don't need a medium duty chassis, a pickup is more then enough, i have a large crew cab with a very well appointed interior. the drive train is strong enough for what i need, and the ride will be exponentially better than a FL50.

 

[BigDan]

This thread is from 2002 guys.



The trucks and engines are way different now.



Nobody in their right mind would now consider a PSD over a CTD

 

[dpetre]

93 Ford 50K 7. 3 no problems lack of power trade for 94 460 Ford lots of power no fuel mileage traded at 60 K for 95 Ford 7. 3 Power stroke 2 transmissions,1 rear end, 1 master break cylinder, two sets of glow plugs and glow plug controls traded at 100k for 2002 Dodge 24 Valve, main heater motor 37000 miles, lift pump 47000 injector pump 49000, injector pump 89000 miles,94000 miles major oil leak with engine damage, did not add in front stabilizer bar. I have had friends that have bought Fords and Chevy Duramx's and have no problems. The only thing I have not tried is the Duramx.

 

[JErskine]

Adam,



Will a CTD fit in the engine bay of a 250 or 350? Even if a body lift is all you need, I don't see why it wouldn't work. If height is a problem, add a body lift to make room.



I had a Ford F series, and never agian will I do that.

YES, A GUY IN MY TOWN JUST BUILT ONE

 

[MStrain]

Ford is almost guaranteed major engine failure

I really like the size and look of the Ford Superduty trucks, but I happen to be friends with alot of Ford guys, and know 3 people with late model Superduty trucks with the 6. 0 PSD motor and 2 of them have had thier engines replaced with less than 40K miles, and for both trucks it was after extensive downtime at the dealer where they were "fixing" the various engine problems. One of the two has only put 8K miles on the new 6. 0 PSD when,get this a hole appears on the side of his transmission and dumps transmission fluid all over the neighborhood, so back to the dealer it went where he was informed that the 100K powertrain warranty does not cover the transmission, and also was informed that his turbo was on it's last leg and that it was common since the PSD turbo generally need replacement around 50K. F. O. R. D. fix or replace daily, not personal just a reality.

 

[FourBarR]

Anyone doing their own work there is no choice. I cant see myself working on either the powerstroke or duramaxs ,far to hard to get at anything. working on aircraft for a living I try to avoid certain aircraft because of this. my 2 cts.

 

[cbmkr]

Counted 10 to 11 Powerstrokes on road dead from wyoming to Missouri ,Ford Owner at truck stop said he had burnt another piston in a 2007

 

[Heavyweight]

My family has a 99 F250,,,, runs great. No engine or transmission problems going on 160,000. Minor electrical issues, radio, doors, and keyless entry. Past that,,, all good. The 7. 3 is reliable,,, reliable,,,, and really reliable. No mods by the way... .

 

[BHolm]

I always consider what I think will be the best at purchase time. In '99 when I needed a truck, GM had the 6. 5, no thanks, the second gen Dodge chassis was plagued with issues so I bought a PSD. As a work truck, plowing and towing with multiple drivers I got 250k miles from it. Extremely reliable, replaced a water pump at 35k under warranty, and I like the SD chassis very much.



In '01 I bought a new D-max since that was supposed to be the cats *****. It was to serve a similar role to the Ford already in service. My drivers preferred to haul with the old Ford rather than the fancy new Chev. I had to agree with them, the D-max allison didn't impress me as a truck. As a diesel car it is very good. Smooth ride, low step in hieght, quick on its feet, just not as good for WORK.



In '03 when the third gens came out I tried one with the HO and 48re and immediately loved it, as did the guys pulling with it. I bought a second a few months later. Two of the best tucks I ever owned. I also had an '03 D-max, another nice car. I cooked the allison and traded it for a CTD.



At this point, I don't care for the D-max, the 6. 0 is way too problematic and the CTD fits the bill perfectly for me. It will be intersiting to see how the new 6. 4 Ford works out. My buddy just bought an F250 CC King Ranch and it is a very nice rig. I just wouldn't want to be a guinea pig for Ford based on their last pathetic effort. I have had excellent luck with the Dodge and plan to stick with them for a while.

 

[PObert]

Why is ford suing navistar? to much consumer r&d?

 

[DPKetchum]

Wanting Navistar to reimburse Ford for some of the warranty and buyback money Ford put out on the 6. 0 as well as some issue about pulling the plug(Ford) from Navistar about a smaller diesel for 1500 type trucks/suvs. Probably lots more issues between them then meets the eye.

 

[JFreeman76]

I'm on my 5th dodge truck with a ctd, three 1 tons and two 3/4 tons. I don't see how their can even be a legitimate comparisson between the cummins, powerbroke, and duracrap.

 

[Moose Truck]

Were is the VW TDI?

Anyone doing their own work there is no choice. I cant see myself working on either the powerstroke or duramaxs ,far to hard to get at anything. working on aircraft for a living I try to avoid certain aircraft because of this. my 2 cts.

I certainly try to avoid the Sikorsky S-76, Hard to do as I work in the same Hangar Department, A S-92 is much better:-laf



How come no VW TDI's in this Poll, I know quite a few guys with CTD's that run them as Commuter Cars. I'm am Jonesing for one now that I live 46 Miles from work! Moose

 

[MLisle]

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