6.7L in Pickups Production Delayed?

[Mel Swanson]

Did you get pricing on this truck at time of order?



Thanks

Yes I did. Of course there is a disclaimer, "The prices shown are for information prposes only and are subject to change or correction without prior notice".

 

[LesStallings]

I still can't price a 6. 7 pickup on dodge.com with my zip code.

 

[AHarris]

I think the 6. 7L's gonna be a good one (still like the 5. 9 better). I'm ordering an '08 and AAFES Car Sales is working with me to get the same price on it as the '07 I tried to order with the 5. 9. The 68RFE and exhaust brake sound great... the ECM with 10,000 parameters scares me!



They tell me 6. 7L trucks are already being built (of course these are the same people that told me 2 months ago I was getting a 5. 9). The info sheets they have show the 5. 9/48RE as "out for model year" and "substitute with code ETH (6. 7L/68RFE). "



I'm looking forward to this truck... should get her loaded w/mega cab for around $38K. That 6-speed auto is going to be nice on the highway and I can't wait to try out the exhaust brake in the mountains with my 6500# TT!

 

[JimB1]

One parameter is one defined event and the sample rate of monitoring said event could be 10,000 times per second. There's just not 10,000 seperate parameters to look at. For industrial digital electronics 10,000 cycles/sec (10 khz) is pretty slow but plenty fast for automotive control systems. Example, Quarterback throws longest touchdown pass in NFL history and you're perfectly situated to see it and look away then back for 10 cycles while ball is in air. Did you see 10 touchdown passes or 10 samples of one touchdown pass?

 

[betterthanstock]

One parameter is one defined event and the sample rate of monitoring said event could be 10,000 times per second. There's just not 10,000 seperate parameters to look at. For industrial digital electronics 10,000 cycles/sec (10 khz) is pretty slow but plenty fast for automotive control systems. Example, Quarterback throws longest touchdown pass in NFL history and you're perfectly situated to see it and look away then back for 10 cycles while ball is in air. Did you see 10 touchdown passes or 10 samples of one touchdown pass?

I believe the 10000 parameters.



It means that for every operating condition, like in 10 rpm increments, and for every 10 hp or so, they record (map) all the sensors, throttle position, boost, temperatures, exhaust backpressure, transmission pressure, everything...



If one sensor is out of range, it sets a code.

 

[JimB1]

Digital electronic control systems probally will never be surpassed in our 4 dimension world tho' digital laser will speed things up way beyond straight electronics. My observation's purpose is to demystify this years new sales jargon. If 10,000 parameters correlates to a sample every 10 rpm and/or 10 hp of all sensored events for this year, then if next year they turn up the sample rate clock (which could easily be done) and sample every 1 rpm and 1 hp change are they then monitoring 100,000 parameters? Tomato or tahmahto. Doesn't really matter. I'm trying to uphold spirit of TDR with relavent information of our rigs. Don't want sales jargon to re-package something that's been in place for lots of years already and make it look to be more than it is, which is a excellent control system methodology but not new.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

The only group that gets under my skin is the " I'm glad I was smart enough to buy the last year" group. I remember a bunch of those that bought the 2002 trucks to avoid all the pollution "crap" that was going to be on the 2003 and later models.

OK, I was, and still AM one of those - totally satisfied to have bought the LAST of the 2nd generation trucks, and STILL wouldn't trade it straight across for the latest model year equivalent...



It's a personal choice thing - and the guys going for the latest stuff are fully entitled to make their choice, just as I was - and we can ALL hope they end up as happy with theirs as I am with mine.



The WORSE Dodge/Cummins is still better than what the competition offers, at least in my book!

 

[RVTRKN]

OK, I was, and still AM one of those - totally satisfied to have bought the LAST of the 2nd generation trucks, and STILL wouldn't trade it straight across for the latest model year equivalent...



It's a personal choice thing - and the guys going for the latest stuff are fully entitled to make their choice, just as I was - and we can ALL hope they end up as happy with theirs as I am with mine.



The WORSE Dodge/Cummins is still better than what the competition offers, at least in my book!

I wanted to buy a 2nd gen truck before they were gone until I saw the new frame and larger componets (brakes and suspension) at a show. I bought the 2nd gen 94 2500 HD gasser and did not like the brake setup (too small) but I did like the better sheet metal that was used on the 2nd gen. I do like the fact that I got the Cummins 600 in mine now and was just lucky they were there on the lots when I bought it. (see sig)

 

[JACummins2500]

Sorry Bill, but that's not correct--the emmission regulation applies to the build date of the truck and not the date the engine itself was manufactured in Indiana. That's why you can no longer order a new Dodge Ram 2500/3500 with a 5. 9L. I learned this the hard way when I ordered a new Mega Cab with a 5. 9 in Dec only to be told that my truck wasn't built and won't be because they cannot build trucks with the 5. 9 after 31 Dec 2006 due to the 1 Jan 07 EPA regs.



Because of the EPA regs, from now on the only engine offered on a new 2007. 5 Dodge Ram 2500/3500 is the new 6. 7L EPA-compliant CTD or the 5. 7 hemi gasser.

It is the date of the engine. The 5. 9 was built right until the end of 2006. Obviously some of these were installed in trucks with a 2007 build date. This also applied to Class 6-8 highway trucks as well.



Since all engines are built to order, it is more likely that Dodge/Cummins could no longer allocate an engine to your order. I don't know when in December you ordered your truck but it may have been too late to get you engine into production.