Don can make a injector that is 280hp over stock without a box too but the smoke from said injector would be insane
That is what I said, 60hp more than a mach 6 without a box was possible, if smoke is not an issue. I don't believe 280hp total though with no box on, maybe, maybe not.
I have tried injectors by all of the above vendors except for one and I can say that none of them produced more HP on the dyno then F1 injectors. They did produce a lot more smoke and heat though
Doug, maybe your test vehicle was lacking enough air for the bigger injectors? If there isn't enough air, you will see smoke, high temps and reduced power. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I know what I have experienced first hand with some of the more radical pulling injectors. I remember way back when Dr. Performance tried saying he made so much more power with out increased egt's, and everybody said he was full of manure. Everybody said power takes fuel which yields more heat. So why is it everyone believes Don can and Doc couldn't. I remember several members quoting a law of physics about fuel=heat=power.
Wanna bet?
Kinda funny that in your signature you show mach 6 injectors. Hmmmmmm, guess they are some kinda good though huh?
Why is my sig. funny? It should indicate to you that I have some firsthand knowledge to back up what I said. Have you tried any of the above mentioned injectors? What makes you an expert? Or are you just a cheerleader without actual experience? I am still running them because I don't have the coin to purchase anything else right now. If I were to do it over again, I would have made a different purchase, but hindsite is 20/20. I am not bashing them either, they are a fine injector if you like friendly street manners. These were sold to me on the premise that they would utilize all of my available air without tapping the pump wire, and that towing would barely be possible. I can't get them to run over 1050 no matter what on either pyro empty or towing, so I guess that wasn't a true sales pitch. I was looking for and was told I was buying the biggest set of injectors my twins would support without running a fueling box. In my first post, I said that I believe there are injectors out there that can make 60hp over the mach 6 with no other fueling enhancements. If you read Nathan's post, he pretty much said the same thing. Why is it, that there are some products that get such a cult following, that if you mention anything other than wonderful things about them, you get everybody all riled up and receive death threats? Again, I never knocked them, I just believe there are more powerful injectors if smoke is not an issue.
Dan
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Good seller, fast shipment, just wonder how much he knows about injectors
Other claims have been made that bigger connector tubes have lost HP also!
60 more hp, not 600. Unless your talking about something else on another thread?