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[Cummins12V98]

Well, you can't beat free that's for sure!!! But, if you join the DRV Owners Group FB page, we have a lot of 2 axle DRVs on Continental LR J HTL2s and so far, 0 failures. They are a robust tire that has stood up to everthing our group has thrown at it. They are not always easy to come by however.

I do understand they are so far a proven tire but I really want to keep my money here if possible.

 

[Kirwin]

Ron, don’t run a tire at max load or max speed on your DRV. The 6,000 lb Continental I referenced above is proven to be the tire for our trailers. The tires could cost you a lot more than trailer fender damage if you have a tire failure at speed.

 

[gsbrockman]

I read somewhere that rating is running with 6k on the tire and with less weight the speed rating increases???

NEVER in my 20+ years of being in retail tire sales have I ever read that speed rating changes as tire load increases or decreases.

What were your “problematic” tires rated at and how fast have you ACTUALLY been running them?

 

[JR]

According to this link they are speed rated @62mph at max load 6005 lbs. I'd be leary of anyone telling you they are rated for any higher speed. The speed limitation Doesn't seem like it would make for a good option given your (mostly) all Interstate travel.
I really would have expected more out of GY, many trailer tire manufacturers have upped their speed rating over the last several years.

 

[SnoKing]

many trailer tire manufacturers have upped their speed rating over the last several years.

I call that the Carlisle/Bass Boat up rating of trailer tires. They were one of the first to rate ST tires above 65 mph. For years we were told that the higher rating of the cheap trailer tires was because of the speed restriction at 65 mph. Then poof we that 85 mph ST tires.

 

[Cummins12V98]

NEVER in my 20+ years of being in retail tire sales have I ever read that speed rating changes as tire load increases or decreases.

What were your “problematic” tires rated at and how fast have you ACTUALLY been running them?

Sounded odd to me also but was just asking if anyone had hear that. Seems really off that the KMAX T is rated at 60, maybe I am wrong. I looked and GY says 62mph speed rating.

They are rated at 4,805# and I am around 4,375#. I have towed maybe one thousand miles at 70-75 and the rest at 60. They are speed rated "L" at 75mph.

They should not be failing even if I towed 75mph and 4,805#. I am not the only one as they do have a problem.

 

[Cummins12V98]

According to this link they are speed rated @62mph at max load 6005 lbs. I'd be leary of anyone telling you they are rated for any higher speed. The speed limitation Doesn't seem like it would make for a good option given your (mostly) all Interstate travel.
I really would have expected more out of GY, many trailer tire manufacturers have upped their speed rating over the last several years.

YES, it seems really low for sure. I highly doubt they would fall apart if towed over 62 especially with only 4,400# load.

 

[gsbrockman]

They should not be failing even if I towed 75mph and 4,805#. I am not the only one as they do have a problem.

Any chance others have violated the speed limitations of the tires whilst towing?

 

[Cummins12V98]

Any chance others have violated the speed limitations of the tires whilst towing?

One guy who has a reg cab RAM DRW with a Mobile Suites not as heavy as mine has had tread seperation and does not tow over 70. One more who is as heavy has had tread desperation and loss both.

Typically you will see the center three ribs lift higher than the outer ribs before tread loss. This tire was perfect one hour before and one last year the same thing.

Had a few start looking like the last pic and so did the other two guys mentioned. The pics were when the tires were a couple years old.

GY eventually replaced all 4 tires and then last year replaced those along with OE Spare and now this one of the third set has failed. I kept hoping they got the issue fixed.

 

[Kirwin]

I have more experience with this issue than I wish I had. ALL Michelin 17.5” tires are rated at 100 KPH (62MPH). I ran the 215-75R17.5” rated at 4805 lbs. I had 2 failures about 1 year apart. On the second failure Michelin weighed each wheel position. On the drivers side front axle I was 140 lbs over 4805. I was offered the 235-75R17.5 rated at 6005 lbs. BUT it’s still rated at 62 MPH. I served in the US Navy with the head of Michelin North American truck tires. We had lunch together and he told me that there was nothing we could do to increase the speed rating. However he was not concerned about that as much as he was that we were at 100% load , operating at 100% speed. He said that going to the 6 K tire would probably eliminate the failures. His other point was that speed rating is related to max tire casing temperature which is obviously also related to tire load. Exceeding tire temperature limits due to overload or too much speed causes the tire to come apart internally. This is a cumulative effect that leads ultimately to tire failure. In the end I went with the Continental tires due to there 6K weight rating and 75 MPH speed rating. There have been no failures that I’m aware of in our group since we switched.

 

[HVAC2]

ATC comes with Westlake ST rated at 2830, my second set.im way below that however. E bikes. Heaviest load is 100 gallons of water and 30 gallons of fuel for gen.
All at 70 and much above. They are rated at 75. I think they offer much heavier version than mine and still 75.

ST225/75R15 LRE 10 2830 80PSI
ST235/80R16 LRE 10 3520 80PSI
ST235/85R16 LRG 14 4080 single/3640 dual 110PSI

 

[Cummins2014]

I do understand they are so far a proven tire but I really want to keep my money here if possible.

There does become a time when you have to ask yourself how long do I stick with a brand of tire that's tearing up my fifth wheel . I know you are dead set against other brands , but it appears the time has come to maybe look at another brand .

As said in a previous post, when the time comes I am going to look at those Hankook H31's, I they have 17.5 J rated, 6008 lb rating . By the time my Sailuns age out, those H31's will have some sort of track record good or bad .

 

[Cummins12V98]

Has ANYONE heard of an issue with a KMAX T tire? I am NOT against other brands, I run exclusively Michelins on my DRW. I run NITTO's on my 01 2500 sport.

 

[SnoKing]

There does become a time when you have to ask yourself how long do I stick with a brand of tire that's tearing up my fifth wheel . I know you are dead set against other brands , but it appears the time has come to maybe look at another brand .

As said in a previous post, when the time comes I am going to look at those Hankook H31's, I they have 17.5 J rated, 6008 lb rating . By the time my Sailuns age out, those H31's will have some sort of track record good or bad .

Any brand tire can tear up your trailer. GY is noted to pay for the damage if you are polite and firm with them. Tell me any other tire company that does that.

 

[Ozymandias]

Michelin or Continental for me if I really need the best of the bestest.

Jm2c

 

[Cummins12V98]

Kirwin, I don't see how you could be 140# over with a 19,640# DRV??? I am at 24k with 17,500# load on the 4 tires, that is an average 4,375# pre tire.

 

[Cummins2014]

Any brand tire can tear up your trailer. GY is noted to pay for the damage if you are polite and firm with them. Tell me any other tire company that does that.

So you pay three times more for a Goodyear for the insurance to pay when they explode or come apart ,and tear up your fifth wheel. Not sure I see the logic in your statement. I have auto insurance for that . Why should I buy a $400 dollar tire ,take the chance that's its going to do what it did to Ron more then once, and still continue with that brand of tire .You know the saying burn me once ,shame on you ,burn me twice ,shame on me .

No, to answer your question ,I don't know of a tire that pays for damage ,nor do I care . I do care that I buy a tire that gives me the best chance of not failing , unlike those goodyears , that have me sitting beside the road with a tore up fifth wheel, and a flat.

 

[SnoKing]

So you pay three times more for a Goodyear for the insurance to pay when they explode or come apart ,and tear up your fifth wheel. Not sure I see the logic in your statement. I have auto insurance for that . Why should I buy a $400 dollar tire ,take the chance that's its going to do what it did to Ron more then once, and still continue with that brand of tire .You know the saying burn me once ,shame on you ,burn me twice ,shame on me .

No, to answer your question ,I don't know of a tire that pays for damage ,nor do I care . I do care that I buy a tire that gives me the best chance of not failing , unlike those goodyears , that have me sitting beside the road with a tore up fifth wheel, and a flat.

My 5th will came with Sailun ST235/85R16G tires. Never had a problem with them. Some believe in only buying American made products however.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I buy US Made and the best quality when possible.

Went to the Dealer to schedule some warranty work. No coverage on my headlights GRRRR

Heat not working on my side of truck is covered along with three dead tire sensors. Going to be at least a month before they have a rental car for me.

 

[Cummins12V98]

My 5th will came with Sailun ST235/85R16G tires. Never had a problem with them. Some believe in only buying American made products however.

Your tow behind came with US Made ENDURANCE GY’s and hey were nice enough to give you a new tire even tho it was road hazard damage.