Amalgamated Diesel Additive Ordering Info

[HEMI®Dart]

Gary Pipenger emailed me yesterday. Here is what he can do.



A 5 Gallon Container of #15 Diesel Additive ( Listed in the TDR article) is $50. 00 + $35. 00 Shipping. Total $85



Send Check to:



Amalgamated, Inc.

P. O. Box 8977

Fort Wayne, IN 46898



See TDR issue 36, page 24 for more info



Below is from Gary:



Dear Bill,



I attempted a couple of times to contact you by telephone, but was

unsuccessful.



As a custom blender of fuel additive products specializing in premium

diesel fuel additives, we do not routinely sell our products at the

retail level, but rather we sell to fuel suppliers, jobbers and

distributors of fuel.



As of this time we do not have any sales of our products in your area,

however, if you send us $50. 00USD for the additive plus another $35USD

for shipping, I will arrange to have a five gallon can of the additive

#15 (listed in the TDR article) sent to you. Unfortunately, this is the

best that I can offer you.



I will also forward you a copy of one of our notebooks with the articles

we have published on premium diesel fuel. Let me know if I can be of

further assistance.



Best regards,



Gary Pipenger

President

 

[D White]

Thanks for the info, Can't wait to give it a try.



DW

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Me too D White. I put my check in the mail this morning. I re-read the message 5 times to make sure it wasn't $500. 00 for a pail. That's what I thought it would be.

 

[D White]

When I read the article, I figured it would be at least a couple hundred a pail. So didn't look into it any farther. I'm glad you checked farther into it. That seems like a good price, considering all the over the counter products run around that figure and don't boost the numbers nearly what this stuff does.



I mix in bulk, so the 5 gallon pail isn't a problem at all.



Thanks again,

DW

 

[Bob Wagner]

save me some time please

how many oz's per 35 gallons



thx

 

[KatDiesel]

Yes me too, if you would check and see what the treatment rate is.



Also when looking at the "Test info" in the TDR #36... which one will this stuff we get fall under? They have 3 or 4 different varieties listed.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

I will email Gary and ask him what the rate is and what the different PTB #'s are in the chart. Gary is great at answering emails quick.

 

[chucksram]

Bob,

There's 4480 OZ. in 35 Gal



Chuck

 

[pwknapp]

I think he is asking how many ounces of additive per tankful(35 gal).

 

[BushWakr - RIP]

Here's another tidbit on this one.

My younger brother got 'the bug' when he read the article on Amalgamated.

He started making calls and I THINK he spoke to the same guy about one additive that was NOT included in the survey... Stanadyne.

What he was told was this... Stanadyne commissioned this fellow to formulate an additive to meet certain criteria for cetane, lubricity, etc, etc. 15 years ago.

When he did this the folks at Stanadyne told him it was too expensive for them market and have a "decent" margin.

So, they went to Lubrisol to make their additive package under the Stanadyne name.

The fellow from Amalgamated said that he has tested the formula in question, and in his personal opinion it is of moderate quality at best.

My brother was also told the same $$$ for a 5 gal. drum of #15 additive (which was supposedly mentioned in the TDR article).

Also that he could custom formulate to spec as needed for any application/criteria.

We are now in the process of taking some random samples of #2 fuel to Finning to have it analyzed as to cetane, BTU content, etc.

They promise 24 hour turnaround on the tests.

I'll post the results when they become available, especially since the improvement in cetane is greater when starting with a higher cetane base fuel being treated.



Bob.

 

[Animal]

What do we need to do.

HEMI Dart,



Was this a one-time thing for you or did you work this deal out for all TDR members. I’m interested in getting this and need to know if he’ll honor this price for everyone. Also what do we need to do to get this price, just send a copy of this e-mail or what.



Thanks

 

[10-G]

Can someone summarize the TDR article. Is this stuff you guys are referring to the best? If so, thats sounds like a good price for a 5 gallon bucket.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Animal,



I asked Gary if I could pass the information so the TDR guys can order too. . He said sure. It's the same for everyone. I would just copy or write down the first post in the thread.



Rate & Formulation info from Gary:



The mixing ratio for additive (21665-15) is one gallon per each 375

gallons of diesel fuel (1 pint per each 47 gallons to be precise, but 1

pint per 50 will be O. K. ). The # 15 additive has 652 PTB of cetane

improver and should yield 6+ engine cetane numbers increased.



best regards,



Gary Pipenger



10-G,



After I read the TDR article I felt that this was one of the better additives out there. Others may be just as good, but there is not much hard data or testing to be sure. Stanadyne has a pretty decent test comparison, but it was used double-rate to achive the results. ? I use Amsoil Cetane Boost. I think it works real good. There really isn't any data saying it does raise Cetane 4-7 points like the can sez.

 

[Bob Wagner]

thanks for the info Hemi&regDart



Do you have a twin brother? John Leslie

 

[JFitzgerald]

Comparison

Thanks for the info, HEMI®Dart and others! Here's my comparison of the costs between what I have been using - Power Service (PS)- and the good stuff - Amalgamated (AM). I included cost of shipping the AM, so this is based on $85 for 5 gal. of AM, and I pay $7. 99 for a 96 ounce jug of PS at a local Farm & Fleet store.



cost per ounce (rounded):

PS $. 08

AM $. 13



I have a first gen with the 30 gal. tank, and usually refill at about 24-25 gal. , so I just pour in 8 oz. of PS before filling. This would be the right dose for either product according to what I'm reading.



cost per 8 ounces (rounded):

PS $. 67

AM $1. 06



Now figure the cetane improvement. 67 cents per tank for a 0. 6 improvement (PS) vs. $1. 06 per tank for a 6+ improvement. Sounds like a good deal for the Amalgamated product to me. I too expected it to be expensive, the way the article read.



A 5 gal. pail would last me for 80 fill ups, about 32,000 miles. That's about 16 months for me. Does the product degrade over that much time? I'd be up for splitting a pail with one or more others. I am anxious to try it and am curious what HP and TQ difference 6 more cetane numbers makes.

 

[CumminsPuller]

Do we need to mention the TDR when mailing the check to amalgamted?



Jason

 

[HEMI®Dart]

I would Jason.

 

[Steve Campbell]

Like Jfitzgerald...

I would like to know what improving the cetane rating 6 points would do?

 

[Chipstien]

Where is this place located and which issue of TDR Mag was it in. Does it add lubricity like PS or Stanadyne. If it is that much better than It might be worth trying

 

[Bob Wagner]

Chip, the article is in issue 36

If you want, I will split a pail with ya