Amsoil is? Less PC Poll

[Don M]

Ok, here we go. A less than PC poll about Amsoil and who thinks what about it.



Don~



dealers- you can vote to to help support your product. Please just vote one time to keep it all fair.

 

[Dkevdog]

Oh boy... ... ... here we go... ... ... . :-{} !!!



This should be fun to watch!!! I'll start. I think it's a tad pricey and would rather stick with routine fluid changes.



Next??



Kev

 

[chuck3]

I use it in my transmission & rear end only. There's no way I could put enough miles on the eng. oil to make it cost effective. I can barely go 4k miles without the urge to change it now.

 

[LSMITH]

Who said they put it in and it started leaking????:-laf :-laf :-laf :-laf





Sorry I could not resist.

 

[BigDaddy]

When it was time to change the powertrain fluids I had three things in mind:

1. Proven compatibility/reliability

2. One stop source

3. Most bang for the buck



AMSOIL met this criteria and then some. A point to note: I am very skeptical about improved fuel economy claims (in regards to lubricants and others), but surprisingly, I saw a gain of . 5 Mpg’s with AMSOIL Not to mention extended drain interval.



AMSOIL Series 2000 75W-90 Gear Lube in the front and rear and AMSOIL Universal Automatic Transmission Fluid in the auto and transfer case.



BTW, I still use Dino in the mighty CTD:-{}



To each, his own

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Part of my Email response to one of the gentlemen in this group - Ithink it pretty well sums it up for *me*!



"actually, I've already read quite a bit on the subject of

lubricants, and pretty well come to a few conclusions that at least fit my personal situation. I'm

65 years old, and bought my current Dodge new in '91. I retired in '96, and since the truck was new,

have put 117,000 miles on it. That's pretty much the "normal" 12,000 miles a year - it ALSO means

that even if I manage to put the same mileage per year on it (not likely!), I'll be *85* by the time

I even get CLOSE to wearing the engine out.



SOOoo, this constantly boiling argument about synthetics and extended oil changes is rather moot -

why should *I* be particularly concerned about FURTHER extending the life of my engine when it will

ALREADY outlast ME and the TRUCK in normal service lifespan? Any "extended life" that MIGHT be

provided will only benefit the NEXT owner, and frankly, I don't give a damn!



Even owners younger than I am RARELY keep vehicles longer than a few years - and their "need" to

increase engine life will not likely benefit them either - so why go to such expensive extremes for

so elusive a benefit?



Other than the above "logic" on the issue of synthetics, there is left the issue of offsetting the

expense by extending the time the more expensive synthetics are left in service - and I DO suspect

that such extended usage in other than commercial service is probably somewhat self-defeating. Sure,

commercial diesel operators, where engines are operated fairly non-stop would SEEM best suited to

benefit from an oil that would need less frequent service intervals - but their less frequent

short-haul and frequent hot/cold engine cycling would also seem to slant oil analysis and typical

tests that involve their operations. "





AND, for the tenacious few who claim PRICE is NOT the reason they employ extended oil changes, I ask, if your favorite synthetic only sold for 10 cents a quart, would you STILL use extended oil changes?

 

[Forrest]

LSMITH,



The rear pumpkin leaked in what may be called the 'casting' indents. Don't know what they are called, but there are 4 to 6 of them on the Dana 80. Kind of look like indented belly buttons.



I didn't drain it out for that, just needed to fix the leaks. No problemo now.

 

['956Wheel]

DELO 400 will take great care of your Cummins for well into the 1/2 million mile mark, if you need to spend more bucks just do it. Like the pevious post said... moot.



Mike

 

[HC]

This is like a food fight. Nobody wants to be in one, but once it starts...



Inquiring minds want to know:



Three questions for those who vote "After using Amsoil the leaks started. " (and please know that if you say you have leaks, I believe you, and I don't need your VIN#)



1) Were you using Dino or Synthetic before Amsoil?

2) How many miles when you put in the Amsoil?

3) Do you believe that if you had switched to API-certified Delvac 1 synthetic instead of Amsoil, your engine would not have leaked under those same conditions?

 

[Extreme1]

I've used Amsoil for a few years now. Despite Gary's suspicions, extended drain intervals do pay off. Especially if you are changing at a low milage. I would run dino oil at least 7,500 miles before changing unless I HAD to have a diesel and didn't let the engine get up to temps.



As stated in one of the TDR issues a few years ago, if you are consistantly short tripping the engine (not getting up to temps) a diesel is not for you regardless of the oil used.



NEXT!

 

[dalton4]

What is the cost for having a lab check your oil for continued use?



Jerry

 

[illflem]

$12-$20 or about the same as one Delo oil change, but minus the hassle of climbing underneath and disposing of the used oil which about equals the hassle of going to the PO and mailing off the sample. It's a good idea to get an analysis with dino oil also, but not at every oil change.

 

[HC]

... but minus the hassle of climbing underneath and disposing of the used oil which about equals the hassle of going to the PO and mailing off the sample...

(not a flame - not a flame - not a flame - just a different opinion!)

For me, big difference in amount of hassle. Disposing of the oil involves pouring it up into the old bottles, a fair amount of clean up time, storing the oil, and then once in awhile catching the Wally World automotive repair department open and getting someone intelligent enough to know that taking my used oil is good for them and good for the environment, and also on top of it enough to know that this decision doesn't require contacting Wal Mart Corporate offices for permission. Mailing the sample involves 5 minutes of paperwork to write down the info on the sample form, sticking the bottle in the pre-paid mailer, and a 75 foot walk to my mailbox to drop it in.

P. S. - I like ifflem's reminder that those using Dino should do an occassional analysis too. How else you gonna know if your air filter is leaking by, to name just one common problem?

 

[amsoilman]

I don't crawl under my truck to take an oil sample, I just open the oil "fill" cap, start the engine and let the bottle fill up, fill out the paperwork, and like HC said, walk to the mailbox and drop it in. The entire process takes about 10 minutes. The BIG thing for me is this: I know what is happening inside my Engine! No Guessing at all! Just "factual truth"! The cost for my complete oil analysis is $14. 00, and even includes the postage! And Yes, like someone else said, if I were not extending my oil drains, I would definately take an oil sample once in awhile. This is based on my last 22 years of experience with engine oils.



2 each his own,



Wayne

amsoilman

 

[SlyBones]

Originally posted by HC

Three questions for those who vote "After using Amsoil the leaks started. " (and please know that if you say you have leaks, I believe you, and I don't need your VIN#)



1) Were you using Dino or Synthetic before Amsoil?

2) How many miles when you put in the Amsoil?

3) Do you believe that if you had switched to API-certified Delvac 1 synthetic instead of Amsoil, your engine would not have leaked under those same conditions?

I did not vote this one. But even before I got my diesel, and ever heard of the TDR or Amsoil, I have always used synthetic engine oil. So far never a leak. Both my car, wifes car, and my '96 gasser were with 7. 5K miles at the switch. My current RAM and the wifes old car had 55K and 60K at switch.



Anyways I have always had people tell me that they will make your car leak. And I doubt any of them heard of amsoil either. They were all taking about Mobil 1, Castrol Syntech, etc.

 

[Don M]

So far 8 people have experienced leaks. That sounds kinda high out of the handfull that voted. I guess I was not alone in the leaks department.



Don~

 

[Sled Puller]

Don,

Do you really think anyone would vote twice on these cheezeball polls?

I mean, we are mostly NOT Democrats out here!



You know what you can do with statistics, when you don't have all the facts.

Carry on, grasshopper!





According to these last two polls, the guys who claim to hate hearing about Amsoil keep posting about it!!!

 

[SS]

Sled Puller,



LMAO! Didn't the bottom of the Florida ballots read something like this:



Did you vote for Al Gore?



No - please change my vote to Al Gore



Yes - please vote again



I don't know - please change my vote or add another vote for Al Gore

 

[C Schomer]

I'm sure Ams is good, from all the testimonials but RP is doing better in my diff. I got tired of having to change engine oil in RV parks on vacation and being a FIRM believer in oil analysis(after several years with equip at work) I switched to syn engine oil. I doubt that I'll run it to the very end - the main reason was to be able to pick a convenient time to change oil. BTW, I use $42/gal syn stuff at work and I do run it to the very end(8000 hrs and up)with nothing but great results. There's definitely savings from extended intervals/analysis when it costs $1000 to change oil in those machines! Craig

 

[GOTSOOT]

Amsoil-API cert.

You all need to check on the back of the bottle-Meets or exceeds all API certs. 15-40 H-D