Amsoil Series 2000 Gear Oil

[GCecchetto]

How many of you guys are using the Series 2000 gear lube? Opinions? One guy was saying he had a griding noise when using it that went away when changing back to another oil. Makes me a little worried.



Gino

 

[GerryDrake]

Series 2000

I read that too, so the case of it that I bought a month or so ago has been sitting in my toolbox as has my Mag Hytec. I got tired of waiting, so I just finished an hour ago making the change, so I will know if there is a problem, but not for a few drives... Took about 3 oz short of 8 quarts. I raised each side of the axle about 5 or 6 inches to facilitate draining, so that might have slightly increased the quantity. .

 

[GCecchetto]

Thats funny, I just did the same thing but I installed a PML cover. I hope neither of us has a problem.



Gino

 

[lschultz]

I have been using the Series 2000 75W90 in my diffs since 95 and never had any problems with it and son has it in his 99(probably around 175000 on truck). I was just finishing up with the front diff on my truck,torqued all the bolts to 30 lbs and one on the bottom twisted off so I had to go to a Napa about 35 miles from the house and get some more bolts not exactly what was in there but it will work for now and these are harder bolts. Had to get a easy out and drill a hole in the bolt for the easy out. It wound up taking most of the day this time.

 

[y-knot]

I have been using Amsoil series 2000 75W-140 gear oil for about 5 years now. I use them in my Dodge, Ford and all the other vehicles I had since when. I have never had a problem, the dodge has a LS and it makes no noises, plus the oil stays very very clean, Last time I checked, you could not tell it from the new oil. Amsoil just released an additive called "Slip-Loc", it can be added to the differential to clear-up chatter caused by limited slips, positraction or locking type rear ends. The friction modifier can be added to an synthetic or normal oil. Four once bottle is part number ADA-BA(1) of one 4oz bottle, and runs about 5-6 dollars.

 

[roperteacher]

It was me!!!!! But I am probably the exception!!!

It was me who posted that the AMSOIL 2000 75-90 made my rear diff grind badly!!! And in my case, IT DID... When I changed my rear diff fluid for the 3rd time (Previous 2 times were by dealer, with MOPAR stuff) Within about 10 miles, I felt a slight grind on corners. It was most pronounced when pulling my gooseneck trailer. I didn't even consider it being the AMSOIL. It is GREAT stuff!! I thought my gooseneck ball was dry and grinding on the hitch. Greased that up, same grind. Around town it was OK, maybe little chirp here and there. Pulling, it was BAD. ONLY on corners usually! Sooooooooo before I took it to the dealer for repairs, I thought I would switch out the rear diff fluid just to see. I went to NAPA and got some VALVOLINE 75-90 100% synthetic lube. Put that in, Instantly, NO grinding whatsoever. Still pulling the same load, same driving habits, etc... Absolutely NO grinding. My rear diff was rebuilt at 2200 miles so she has not been real perfect since new. I think my truck is the ONLY one on here to have had the problems w/ AMSOIL... SO please don't stop using AMSOIL because of my dumb little rear diff, it's probably the first one in the world to react that way to it, however I did have 3 reply's of people who had the same experience as me!

 

[GerryDrake]

Thanks

Roperteacher. Thanks for the explanation, and the endorsement (and lack of condemnation) of the Amsoil. I think we will be happy with the results...



I guess I have been lucky not to have been in the small group cursed with a problem differential. Here are a couple of pix of the ring gears when I changed the oil at 14,999 miles, of course. When we tow, the GCVW is between 22K and 23K so it is fairly heavy. Although I am not NOT not a mechanic, between the lack of metal on the magnet, the overall color of the old gear oil and the appearance of the gears, I am quite happy with what I saw.

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The magnetic drain plug in the old cover... not much in the way of shavings.



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Thanks to Ken, for hosting the pix... .



Gerry

 

[C Schomer]

I had problems with 2k75w90 in my 80. RP 75w90 did better but any 75w90 was really too light. I went up to RP 85w140 for the punishment I give it (and Az. heat)! Craig

 

[Rosco]

I have used the Amsoil series 2000 75w90 in my rear diff since 1,632 miles. I now have 14,550 on the truck and I too have experienced a grinding type of condition when towing my 10,000 pound fifth wheel. At first I chalked it up to different pinion angles when loaded but after reading roperteachers earlier post I am not 100% convinced.



Since I have to service my axles in 500 miles I've been seriously debating what to do considering I have an unopened case of Amsoil plus 4 loose quarts sitting in my basement. I had pondered using the 4 loose quarts of Amsoil in my front diff and returning the unopened case but I can't find the receipt for it.



So, I guess I will buy 4 more quarts of Mobil1 or Valvoline and see if it cures my problem. If it does, then I will just use the remaining case I have in the front axle at later scheduled services. However, If the problem continues then at 30,000 miles I will just switch back to the Amsoil in the rear.



Rosco

 

[BarryG]

I have an 01 so I have the Dana axles instead of the AA's you guys have, that being said I have run the amsoil 2000 75-90 in my truck for 120k and no problems. Everything still looks great.

 

[DGFoster]

Man I have Amsoil 75W 140 in the basement and was planning to use it in my AAM axle/

 

[TCDiesel]

Some times the Amsoil or any manufacturer does not have enough FM,Before droping and replacing add 4-6 Oz of FM,I use 75/90 TGR ,and a couple of my company trucks we had to add the FM,Even though Amsoil say you don"t have to add the FM,Some axles require more FM to remove the friction. My 98 LSD needs twice the recommended amount to remove the Friction,I have to add 6 Oz of FM with my TGR 75/90 to remove the vibration.

 

[roperteacher]

3rd Gen American Axles do not require any friction modifier. My dealer said that AMSOIL already has it in there and that is what was causing the problems. Said it was slipping or something like that! Who knows, it's great stuff, but my rear diff just didn't like it.

 

[TCDiesel]

3rd Gen American Axles do not require any friction modifier. My dealer said that AMSOIL already has it in there and that is what was causing the problems. Said it was slipping or something like that! Who knows, it's great stuff, but my rear diff just didn't like it.

Which did you use TGR or AGR

 

[DPKetchum]

Has anyone called Amsoil to inquire?They have a Tech help line.

 

[amsoilman]

If you have the AAM axle,used by Dodge since the introduction of the 2003 models, it does not have any clutches or disc's, so the friction modifier would not matter one way or the other, as the (FM) Friction Modifier only effects clutches and disc's. The limited slip feature is accomplished using helical gears.



Wayne

amsoilman

 

[TCDiesel]

Owen ,I no longer buy TGR ,I Buy AGR. The TGR did not perform as stated I had to add FM to most of are Dana axle,We Now add the FM to everthing,I got tired off hearing from the drivers about the vibration/chatter that occurs when turning. The AAM don"t have that problem ,we add it anyways since we get the FM in 1/2 gallons,We add 1/2 gallon to 5 gallons AGR.

 

[roperteacher]

OK, I have to admit, I don't know the difference between TGR and AGR. I am assuming one has FM and one doesn't? I ordered my Gear lube from an AMSOIL distributor directly. At that time I wasn't sure what weight to use and type, just knew it had to be 100% synthetic. I told him the year, make and model of my truck and he said that the 04. 5's called for 75-90 for all applications ( Which I later confirmed in my owners manual) and 100% synthetic that met G5 ratings. He recommended the series 2000 75-90. Thats what I bought and installed. I later found out on this board that AMSOIL makes their fluid with the FM already in it, and that it was not required for my American Axle, but would not hurt it either. When the AMSOIL didn't work for me, I assumed my Rear diff was at fault AGAIN, not the AMSOIL. But just to be sure before raining a big stink with Dodge, I switched it to Valvoline Syn 75-90 and poof, the grinding was instantly gone and has been ever since...

 

[Wayne M.]

I have a 5 gallon pail of series 2000 and am phasing it in on all my vehicles. My old '92 has had amsoil in all compartments for a long time (ser. 2000 in the transfer and rear before sale) and had no problems or unusual metal on the magnets.

I am considering what's going on here, seems as though there is an issue with the AAM axles. I am coming up on the first drop (2500 mi now) and was planning on using it.



Is there a gasket used for the AAM axle covers? I know the aftermarket crowd usually uses an O-ring. I would like to skip the RTV if possible.

 

[lschultz]

The AAM has a gasket that you can reuse probably several times or more.