Any truth to this new Calif law?

[illflem]

Heard where legislation is pending in California to make it illegal to travel public roads with mud in your wheel wells or on the mud flaps. Concern is the mud will fall off and make dust.

 

[Sticks]

Originally posted by illflem

Heard where legislation is pending in California to make it illegal to travel public roads with mud in your wheel wells or on the mud flaps. Concern is the mud will fall off and make dust.

If it is true, no better time than the present for the state to slide off into the ocean during the next earthquake.



TDR members, pack your bags and get out quick.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Stop and think about it - all the recent craze for off-road has created a situation where significant numbers of guys are driving out in the deepest and nastiest mudholes they can find - then driving their plastered vehicles out on public roads like some status symbol or badge of 4-wheeling honor. Their vehicles shed VAST amounts of that gunk for others to hafta drive thru, and get smeared all over their own vehicles, and creates potential road hazards due to slipperyness or drivers swerving to miss larger deposits - I see it quite often around here after heavy rains, when some of those guys drive out thru unfenced fields that don't belong to them, making a HUGE mess, both in some guys field, and then back on the road when they return to it - I consider it VERY irresponsible and disgusting!



Thare always HAS been a vehicle law stating the nothing but clear water is allowed to leak or be deposited on public roads from a vehicle - so it's not all that new OR unreasonable...

 

[Thomas]

Gary - Actually the California Vehicle Code allows more than clear water:



23114. (a) No vehicle shall be driven or moved on any highway

unless the vehicle is so constructed, covered, or loaded as to

prevent any of its contents or load other than clear water or

feathers from live birds from dropping, sifting, leaking, blowing,

spilling, or otherwise escaping from the vehicle.

 

[Pit Bull]

God I'm glad I live in Missouri. Now a question??? Why is the ocean wasted on the idiots that live in Komifornia Is it true that the state symbol is a basket of fruits and nuts? :-laf

 

[Whitmore]

:-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Joe G.]

Just a few remarks.



The law quoted about is about loads, not junk under the fenders.



I don't think a law about mud under the fenders has recently been passed. If it had of been there would have been a lot of letters in the local newspaper complaining about it. Maybe there should be because of the very things Gary mentions.



Finally, I deeply resent calling ALL the residents of California names because you don't like part of the population.

 

[tgbol]

Joe

They forget that most of the population of California came here from their parts of the world. Those of us with long time roots here have a different way of looking at things.

 

[Badunit]

With all the construction traffic we have around here, I'd like to see a law that construction vehicles have to be cleaned of dirt clods and rocks before hitting the highways. I'm really really tired of getting rock chips in my windshield and paint from crap falling off these vehicles and bouncing up off the road.



Unfortunately, enforcement would be next to impossible; there already aren't enough police to be on the lookout for HOV violators, people who drive on the shoulders, reckless drivers, and everything else that goes on around in our traffic around here.

 

[Joe G.]

tgbol,



Yeah, I know. But I get tired of it. I've met a lot of people in my travels (I've been in almost all states) that know all about California because they flew out here once for a vacation and went to Disney Land. No joke. I've heard things like that a lot of times. The "fruits and nuts" remark was pretty clever the first time I heard it. I was about five years old then so I was easy to amuse.

 

[Dkevdog]

Originally posted by tgbol

Joe

They forget that most of the population of California came here from their parts of the world. Those of us with long time roots here have a different way of looking at things.

Very True Tom- those of us Born and Raised here seem to share the same opinion.



Oh, and BTW, I hope the rest of the country can feed itself after all of the crops slide into the ocean after that BIG earthquake we've all been waiting for... . ... .



The reason we have the oceans Pit, is because we friggin pay for them.



Kev

 

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Dkevdog



Oh, and BTW, I hope the rest of the country can feed itself after all of the crops slide into the ocean after that BIG earthquake we've all been waiting for... . ... .



Kev

Plenty of open land in Wyoming and Montana for crops... Arizona and Nevada land suddenly become more fertile.

 

[4xquadrod]

Storm Drain watch

Here in Southern Cal. the law makers are trying to prevent anything other then clear water from enter the storm drains. They claim that all the pollutants are damaging the coastal waters. On our construction sites no auto, tractor etc. can carry soil to the streets. I've heard of a concrete company getting fined $100,000 because the individual grabbed a hose and washed off a little concrete from his shoes before entering his truck. Keep in mind this guy washed out his truck in a designated area that contains the wash without having it enter the dirt or street. These goofy liberals in California better wake up because they are causing business to leave the state along with the tax dollars they generate.



:--) Enough of this ranting this is a deisel site!



Sorry

 

[Pit Bull]

Originally posted by Joe G.

tgbol,



Yeah, I know. But I get tired of it. I've met a lot of people in my travels (I've been in almost all states) that know all about California because they flew out here once for a vacation and went to Disney Land. No joke. I've heard things like that a lot of times. The "fruits and nuts" remark was pretty clever the first time I heard it. I was about five years old then so I was easy to amuse.

Joe, Your right I am completely out of line with my comment. California is a very conservative state that is totally in line with the thinking of the majority of the other states. Matter of fact it is hard to tell the difference between the politics of the majority of the people of California and the rest of the nation. I lived in California for awhile and really liked the climate and the ocean. About the comment "fruits and nuts". Let me explain it this way. OJ Simpson was a great football player for most of his life but what is he now remembered for? About the food, I think that is provided by all of the poor illegal labor that comes in from Mexico and doesn't get to vote. But I do appreciate their hard work. I do think it is quite comical that we took California from the Mexicans and they are slowly taking it back.

 

[Pit Bull]

Originally posted by Dkevdog



The reason we have the oceans Pit, is because we friggin pay for them.



Kev

Boy do you have that one backward. The rest of us that don't live on the ocean pay though our taxes for you to have the beautiful beaches. With beach erosion being a problem and US tax payers paying for them to be rebuilt.

 

[Joe G.]

Sarcasm doesn't work either.



I guess you don't support the troops from California either since they are just a bunch of fruits and nuts. I guess that all the TDR members from California are also a bunch of liberal crazies. So we have some bad apples like OJ. I guess where you live there are no bad apples. That would be nice. I guess the majority of the states voted 100% the way you think they should. From what I remember with my feeble memory that didn't happen either. There must be a few disagreements in those states about politics too.



If we include people who have lived here for some time as Californians then we have a few you may have heard of. Ronald Reagan for instance. I think he was a governor here once.

 

[Pit Bull]

I was a Marine in California, I don't remember any that were fruits but a bunch of us were considered to be nuts.



Joe I don't think I said all the people. Most TDR members "seem" to be conservative in their political leaning like Ronny. Joe I think yea protest to much



I don't care what you say, California is considered a very liberal state. Look at some of the laws that are passed out there. But I am aware that all California citizens are not crazy liberals.



By the way are you related to a David George from Independence Missouri? Our families were very close when I was growing up.

 

[Joe G.]

I've heard a lot of the fruits and nuts type business and am getting tired of it.



I was born here and have lived here all my life except for my army service. That happened to be in Kentucky. I kid my friends from there that I should have be able to draw hazardous duty pay for that. They laugh at me and agree with that.



I love where I live and expect to live in this house the rest of my life. Right now I'm looking out my office window at my back yard which is full of redwood trees. A couple of deer who think my yard is a great place to eat are right now flopped next to a stump and taking it easy.



I would not be a bit surprised if the David George living in Independence, Missouri is a cousin of some sort. My great grand parents who settled in Yell County, AR in 1843 where the tiny community of Mount George is today were the parents of 14 children. 13 of those lived to be adults and all had large families. My grandfather was married three times and fathered 21. The family is more of a tribe than a family. I have quite a few relatives in MO. David is an old family name that occurs in every generation in my family. The oldest that I know of was in Chatham County, NC in the late 1700s.

 

[rrausch]

I used to keep one of those big old orange life preservers... you know the kind you tie on... in my closet JUST IN CASE California did indeed start sliding someday.



Now that I have my Dodge/Cummins, I always keep at least 40 gallons of fuel on board... just in case I have to make a sudden run for the Ariz. border! Hopefully when it starts to slide it will slide real slow so I will have time to get the heck back to Missouri!!!

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I guess there's places around the country where large dirt clods falling offa the vehicles wouldn't make much difference - where we lived for a year out near Abilene Kansas for instance most secondary roads were dirt or gravel, and a little MORE dirt wouldn't make much difference...



But it's a bit annoying out here where most roads ARE paved, and you're driving along in yer nice clean car after a rainstorm, and encounter a quarter mile long stretch where some idiot purposely drove off the shoulder into the mud to "test" his 4 wheel drive - then brought an acre of mud back onto the blacktop WITH him, to then get plastered all over YOUR clean vehicle. Then too, as mentioned above, the fun of driving BEHIND one of those same guys, as their med/snow tires are liberally tossing a rooster-tail of crap all over the roadway and YOUR car behind them...



I'm a believer in "freedom" too - but YOUR freedom ENDS where MY nose begins - and I certainly don't appreciate wading thru the junk others so generously trail behind their macho mudders...



Besides, I figure any such law is AIMED most specifically at those situations and types of individuals - I'd hardly expect the Hiway Patrol to be doing White Gloves tests on fenderwells looking for offenders...