Any truth to this new Calif law?

[illflem]

You guys think mud on the paved roads is bad you should come around where I live. Dairy farmers hauling manure down the pavement to spread in their fields, and of course the spreaders are full to overflowing. Paved road closest to my house looks like a dirt road, but it's not dirt, it's cow poop, real nice after a rain. Changing my fuel filter today and it was covered with manure.



People think Calif is liberal since they pass what seems to others to be goofy laws, much of these laws are required mainly because of the large growing populations that most other states don't have to deal with. Too bad for the folks in rural Calif though.

 

[Sled Puller]

I have quite a few TDR buddys that live in Cali, that love smoke and guns and Freedom.



They all want out!!!



Nothing California produces, we can't do without. Period.



Blow the fault line!!!!



I wouldn't care so much, if Cali wasn't always trying to push their views on the rest of the nation. And all their polution, blows this way.

 

[ddutil]

Bill, you created a monster

Would a law like that allow me to sue the city, that loads the roads (and my fenders) with dirty salt and sand during winter? Man, I must shovel this sh*** from my driveway when spring comes. You guys were having a serious discussion, sorry I interrupted 'd better get back to my 2600 psi cleaner job



Dan

 

[illflem]

Dan, Missoula Montana passed an ordinance a few years ago outlawing winter sand and salt because of high dust levels in the spring, sometimes you couldn't see 100 feet. Now they use Mag Chloride that rots out your vehicle wiring and brake lines. Just can't win, but I'd rather have the sand.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

"I have quite a few TDR buddys that live in Cali, that love smoke and guns and Freedom.



They all want out!!!



Nothing California produces, we can't do without. Period.



Blow the fault line!!!!



I wouldn't care so much, if Cali wasn't always trying to push their views on the rest of the nation. And all their polution, blows this way. "

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AMEN! Describes me to a "T", and I couldn't agree more!

 

[Joe G.]

There is no fence around the place. Anyone who REALLY wants to leave can do so. The sooner the better. It would help to reduce the population. The trouble is that people keep moving here so we do need a fence. If you don't need California products don't buy them. As far as "pushing views" is concerned I wonder. Other places adopt things that happen here. Some of those things are kind of goofy for sure, but no one I know is trying to push any of it on anybody. Don't other places think for them selves? If they don't, vote in a better bunch.

 

[illflem]

Nothing California produces, we can't do without. Period.

Sure you could do without California's ag crops but it would be a pretty bland diet with lots of imports from foreign countries. If California were a country, it would be the sixth leading agricultural exporter in the world. California is the sole producer (99 percent or more) of sixty-two different agricultural crops in the US.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Two items relatively unique to California where crops are concerned...



1. Climate.

2. Water



Other states may have LOTS of open land - but without the above resources, they're not of much value agriculturally...

 

[Pit Bull]

Originally posted by illflem



Paved road closest to my house looks like a dirt road, but it's not dirt, it's cow poop, real nice after a rain. Changing my fuel filter today and it was covered with manure.

Sounds like you could be from the Ozarks Down here you have to be careful driving or you might run into one of those mobile meth labs At least this part of the country is leading in something :-laf It's funny they have a law agains't these meth lab's but they keep building them. I wonder if the muddy truck law in California will be enforced any better than the law agains't cooking meth is in SW Missouri?

 

[CFAR]

Joe G.



Most people don't understand the geographical, and social differences between northern and Southern CA. I was born in Eureka Joe so I do understand. WE NEED TO SPLIT THE STATE!!!!!!. The northern most 13 counties would be fine. If you ask Most people where San Francisco is they will say Northern CA, get out a map and look and you will discover their mistake. By the way Joe 81' graduate of Hoopa High. Lived at the end of Thompkins Hill rd till 10 then out to my Grandparents place in Willow Creek where my mother still lives, me too whenever I get the chance. By the way I'm proud of my ancestors association with the Bear Flag revolt, any other Bear Flaggers out there.

Registered Republican/Life Member NRA/Life Member NAHC/Sometime member of CRPA(great org).



Don't stereotype us CA people, we just happen to be out numbered by the recent immigrants, I don't mean illegals either, we happen to be the original Sun belt state. If you asked people moving here in the 40's about AZ or NV they would have said "live in the desert you must be crazy"



I hereby relinquish the soap box

 

[Joe G.]

CFAR,



I'm class of '56 Nevada Union, Grass Valley, CA. I wonder how many TDR members live where the main route into the area has a place on the road where the bark is knocked off the trees on both sides of the road for over a mile. You know where I mean. Not exactly like the 101 freeway in LA.



We would like to break away and form the state of Jefferson, but can't get SoCal to go along with that idea.

 

[Deezul1]

I was born a Texan but lived most of my life in SoCal. California is one of the most beautiful states in the Union and the climate is wonderful. If the population explosion were reversed and the State Government were toned down a lot you couldnt ask for a nicer place to live. Its a shame that a few fools can cause so much trouble for so many good people.

 

[CFAR]

Joe G.

Sounds like Ave of the Giants.



My mom said they got the slide cleared at confusion hill.



We had a slide on 299 closed the road for about a year.



Spend much time in Arcata? Guess not! You should have seen it during the 70's.



Oh yeah my mom sent me an article from the Times Standard where they kicked the tree sitters out of their perches, about time in my opinion.

 

[Joe G.]

No. Richardson Grove. Caltrans can't afford to build around it. Minimum cost of $7mil for three miles of road to go around. No one in the county or Caltrans even considers cutting down one of those trees. So two wide vehicles meeting is kind of exciting. Especially rented RVs from El Monte.



That slide made me have to drive around thru Redding during a snow storm once this winter. What a mess that was. At least I didn't have to chain up three times like two wheel drive vehicles did.



I worked for Humboldt State for ten years during the '70s. Couldn't stand the state burcrats do I quit. There was quite a mess then, but I didn't pay much attention. Working and shooting pool in a beer hall league. Also running my small commercial salmon troller out of Trinidad.

 

[Dkevdog]

Originally posted by Pit Bull

Boy do you have that one backward. The rest of us that don't live on the ocean pay though our taxes for you to have the beautiful beaches. With beach erosion being a problem and US tax payers paying for them to be rebuilt.

Really?? I'll trade ya property tax bills

 

[Dkevdog]

Originally posted by Sled Puller



I wouldn't care so much, if Cali wasn't always trying to push their views on the rest of the nation. And all their polution, blows this way.

You're right Gene! I always seem to forget that the east doesn't produce any pollution!! How silly of me!



You are right about one thing- Many of us stuck in the Urban mess want out- but you're wrong about way too much else for it to make any difference.



There are plenty of beautiful, unpopulated areas still left in Cali. and if it weren't for the rest of country having moved here in the 70's and 80's, there'd STILL BE ALOT MORE.

 

[CFAR]

How may billions of tax payer dollars have been spent rebuilding those houses up and down the east coast. The owners get low federal ins. then after a huricane wipes out a couple billion dollars worth of real estate, new house.

 

[Joe G.]

Amen Kev,



We lived in LA in the late '50s. It was a real trip then. Choose up drag races at the drive ins. Race on Imperial Highway. Saturday nights at Lions Drag strip in Long Beach (saw Big Daddy the first time he ran there). Sunday drags at Santa Anna or Saugus. Free beaches all over the place. Zuna beach was almost deserted then. You parked along the PCH and walked to the water. Ride the desert up by Palmdale. Incredible fun place. I worked graveyard at LAX so we could do anything we wanted during the day. Now when I go south I go around LA. The place is really out of hand now.

 

[paccool]

Geez, some of the comments back at the front of this thread made me think I was on a Ford site. I thought Dodge owners in some areas of the midwest had more sense than it sounds like some of them have.



Oh well, I better stop right here cause I could start a war here.



Stan

 

[mcoleman]

I think the reason Midwest guys like myself have such a bad opinion of Cali is because everytime the news is on there is a story of some liberal freak protesting something. They never show anything good about Cal on the news. From what I've seen I don't see how you republican TDR members can live there without being beheaded for your beliefs. I have only attended the state once and that was for a short visit at 29 Palms or stumps as we referred to it. I didn't care for the cities and the wierd people in them at all but then again I don't like the wierd people in Misouri's cities either. What crops do you all have in Cali besides grapes? I'm from a farm communitity in Missouri but I have never studied what is grown out there.