Anyone have one of these?

[jwduke]

We're just happy you left



Brian

Thanks Brian! Sorry you miss me!!!

 

[Eric_77]

Kind of interesting



A driver must have a fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement added to the Class C driver license to pull a fifth-wheel recreational trailer over 10,000 Ibs. , but not over 15,000 Ibs. GVWR, which is not used for hire.



Does this mean that I can pull my 17,000 GVW trailer with my 96 2500 (GVW 8,800) trailer and be legal without this endorsement? assuming I could get axle weights right which I couldn't at max load thus the 03 3500 SRW but DOT normally looks at GVW for license violations and actual for weight violations.

 

[jimnance]

I think an interesting aspect to this that hasn't been mentioned is that technically non-residents could be required to have a non-commercial CDL. Like many other requirements like trailer brakes, etc. many laws change as you cross borders. Just because you can get a non-commercial CDL with doubles endorsment I wouldn't recommend pulling doubles in Oregon. I've seen it a few times, but it is an invitation for a ticket.



As far as I know, the CHP has been fairly lax in enforceing this requirement. To my knowledge the only targets have been California residents, and then, only sproradic enforcement.

 

[jimnance]

An interesting quirk in Oregon law is that you can hook a class 8 tractor (big rig) to a fifth wheel and pull it with just a class C license. This is because it is considered a recreational vehicle because of the (not for hire) fifth wheel in tow. However, the minute you drop the fifth wheel you are no longer an RV and must have a CDL.



I checked this out with the Oregon DMV and State Police. I wouldn't take such a rig to California as I think their vehicle code would not permit such a comibination without a CDL.