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RIDGERACING said:
06 auto trans. oil, Any recomendations, Mopar trans fluid is over $7. 00 a quart. I understand it requires syn. fluid.



Wal-mart sells Mopar ATF+4 for around $4. 42 per quart.

They also sell their own brand ATF+4 for under $4. 00
 
I just purchaced a case of valvoline atf+4 full syn. at Advance auto. $4. 68qt. My local Walmart did not have any. Mopar was $6. 34 dealer cost. I purchaced filter at dealer. I believe the trans pan gasket is supposed to be rubber,reusable? I also purchaced new fuel filter $30. , I am not sure but i thought the last filter I purchaced at the same dealer ship was atleast $10. cheaper. Are the new 7micron filters more?
 
RIDGERACING said:
I just purchaced a case of valvoline atf+4 full syn. at Advance auto. $4. 68qt. My local Walmart did not have any. Mopar was $6. 34 dealer cost. I purchaced filter at dealer. I believe the trans pan gasket is supposed to be rubber,reusable? I also purchaced new fuel filter $30. , I am not sure but i thought the last filter I purchaced at the same dealer ship was atleast $10. cheaper. Are the new 7micron filters more?



www.genosgarage.com has filters for alot cheaper, fuel, oil, and transmission.

click on link
 
IThomas said:
Has anyone else heard that manufactures are recomending NOT using Amsoil?



I have been told not to run it in mine????



It is not API certified, so technically DC could void your warrranty.



Amsoil says It meets or exceeds API standards but is not Certified that it does through API.



On edit: oops I was talking engine oil, don't really know for sure about the ATF+4 but I think it falls into the same catagory.
 
Changed the transmission fluid + filter last night, went well. I cant say I noticed a difference in shiffting. But after seing the debre in the pan I am glad I dropped the pan and filter. The Valvoline ATF+4 full Syn. I used says reccomended for Chryslyer/Dodge on the front of the bottle.
 
pwr2tow said:
It is not API certified, so technically DC could void your warrranty.



Amsoil says It meets or exceeds API standards but is not Certified that it does through API.



On edit: oops I was talking engine oil, don't really know for sure about the ATF+4 but I think it falls into the same catagory.

The API only Certifies (License) Engine oil.



The Amsoil ATF+4 has been around for a number of years, and does exceed the Chrysler ATF+ thru ATF+4 specifications as well as numerous others.
 
Ah amsoilman, API certification also is a guarantee the oil is within specs.



Meet or exceed is just a marketing tool to make it look like the oil has a guarantee.
 
Why then would an aftermarket transmission dealer say it is not recomended to be used in there transmissions?



I am confused... . :confused:



Something is not sounding right...



2003 Dodge 2500 Quad-cab, 4x4 long box, Cummins S. O. , Auto, BD full Trani & torque converter, BD BOV, HTT Sled-puller 66 turbo, TST Powermax-CR 4 stage programin, EZ edge stack, AFE Stage 2 intake, Banks High Ram intake, MBRP 4" Turbo back, Air-Dog
 
pwr2tow said:
Ah amsoilman, API certification also is a guarantee the oil is within specs.



Meet or exceed is just a marketing tool to make it look like the oil has a guarantee.



You may call it marketing or whatever you would like, but Amsoil has been marketing Automotive Synthetics longer than anyone in the industry! Do you actually think if the oils they manufacture are inferior, and do not meet the API standards, they would still be in business? Afterall, they have been making these synthetic oils for 33 plus years.



And by the way, the API does NOT test oils, they only make standards to which the oils are tested.



Wayne

amsoilman
 
amsoilman said:
You may call it marketing or whatever you would like, but Amsoil has been marketing Automotive Synthetics longer than anyone in the industry! Do you actually think if the oils they manufacture are inferior, and do not meet the API standards, they would still be in business? Afterall, they have been making these synthetic oils for 33 plus years.



And by the way, the API does NOT test oils, they only make standards to which the oils are tested.



Wayne

amsoilman



Liten up dude, I never said they were no good. Just pointing out what is not there for warranty concerns if anyone has warranty concerns.



I use some of the products myself.



And by the way, the API does NOT test oils, they only make standards to which the oils are tested. Wayne amsoilman
and amsoil does not send the tests to be certified by API.
 
pwr2tow said:
Liten up dude, I never said they were no good. Just pointing out what is not there for warranty concerns if anyone has warranty concerns.



I use some of the products myself.



And by the way, the API does NOT test oils, they only make standards to which the oils are tested. Wayne amsoilman
and amsoil does not send the tests to be certified by API.

ok i will say this, not to flame but i want to here of anyone that has accually had there warranty denied because of amsoil, not hearsay but real data. that i bet will be very hard to do
 
pwr2tow said:
Liten up dude, I never said they were no good. Just pointing out what is not there for warranty concerns if anyone has warranty concerns.



I use some of the products myself.



And by the way, the API does NOT test oils, they only make standards to which the oils are tested. Wayne amsoilman
and amsoil does not send the tests to be certified by API.

VERY TRUE, as they are NOT "licensed", and do not have to be licensed as the licenseing is strictly VOLUNTARY.



Here is the AMSOIL warranty.



http://www.amsoil.com/warranty.aspx



wayne

amsoilman
 
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O. K. guys, Amsoil has on their files warranty claims by customers that the customers warranty was voided by the vehicle manufacturer. Amsoil done the right thing and covered the charges for the fix. Your both Amsoil dealers so you know this to be fact.



For what ever reasons Amsoil chooses not to API license some of their products. Yes it is totally voluntary if any manufacturers (mobil, Shell, BP) lubricating product wants to be licensed and held accountable if their product does not form to standards set by API. Amsoil choose not to license some of their products for what ever reason and that leaves it up to the customer to decifer why and why not. The wording of meets or exceeds also implys to the customer the product is fully tested by independent labratories other than labratories being paid by the product producer.



You two can dance around the issue and we can discuss this until were all blue in the face but it does not change the fact that some of Amsoil products are not API licensed and a vehicle manufacturer can void a warranty because of Amsoil's lack to be API licensed.
 
Picked up Valvoline ATF+4 at Kragen for 3. 49/qt.



BTW, anyone using Valvoline DuraBlend 80w90 in their diffs?



... John
 
If Amsoil will not be warrent'd by Dodge then why would my local dealer Carson Dodge sell Amsoil products and put them in your truck if requested. In fact John Holmes TDR writer and Carson Dodge advisor recommends and uses Amsoil products in his own Dodge cummins trucks. I see reading here that it comes down to each dealer and how they respond to warrenty issues. I say use the oil product of your choice and change it often. The mighty Cummins will still go and go. I for one will continue to use Amsoil in everything.
 
Edgemann55 said:
If Amsoil will not be warrent'd by Dodge then why would my local dealer Carson Dodge sell Amsoil products and put them in your truck if requested. In fact John Holmes TDR writer and Carson Dodge advisor recommends and uses Amsoil products in his own Dodge cummins trucks. I see reading here that it comes down to each dealer and how they respond to warrenty issues. I say use the oil product of your choice and change it often. The mighty Cummins will still go and go. I for one will continue to use Amsoil in everything.



You answered your own question.

it comes down to each dealer and how they respond to warrenty issues.



John Holmes is a very respectable person and if he and Carson Dodge decide to fly under DC's Warranty and cover parts that's their business. Any Dealer for any company selling any product can cover claims if they choose to. Some dealerships are better at not disclosing marginal things and cover the situation themselves.



Alot of dealers do recommend and sell products (Amsoil and none Amsoil) that will void your warranty. I know first hand, I had such a dealer when I bought my new 1999 Dodge cummins. I still had 3 1/2 years and 88,000 miles worth of warranty remaining when mine was voided. Keep in mind it was not Amsoil related but on the same principal.
 
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