Biodiesel SCAM

[tgordon]

Ok, one can compare anything, but IMHO there are to many variables in place for it to be accurate, especially knowing the rpm differance. I know Cat has differant classes of engines depending upon what one is doing with them and the main differance is the rated hp for the engine but they several differant load scales. Such as I would never pull a 3406 out of a semi and drop it into a tractor. I have seen several guys blow up engines doing that because they operate to close to the max hp with no rest period.

 

[DJW]

Regarding the question whether the USA can produce 100% of it's own energy needs regarding motorised use, I saw a program on TV, PBS, where a man from India claims the US can Grow enough crops to process ethanol, biodiesel and whatever for 100% for it's own use, also the amount of land needed would be quite modest. Then he went on to explain, something about Market Forces,competition with Oil Companies, Vested Interests and a host of other Hurdles to overcome, he was in finance so that's where he got his knowledge from (he had the Riches to Prove it). I was interested in his talk, but failed to find a concrete formula to guarantee his findings. P. S. I have a book dealing with Solar Energy, dated 1903



CF not sure of the atmospheric bit, but in 1955 read where if the engine manifolds were designed to use American Gasoline, the foreign cars would get better milage than they already were. Claimed the US Gas was "Wet" whereas the European was "Dry. " Years later reading in The Enthusiast the HD motor magazine they had a Motorcycle and side car used for record attempts using Dope fuel, they were taking it to England to see what results they would achive there, but knew from the outset that the results would be lower there, owing to the air desity, atmosphere or whatever, but the Air would be the deciding final chapter. Unaware of the conditions for Motorcycle races in the US, but in Britain the final carburetor jeting would be decided minutes before the race depending on the Atmospheric Pressure.

 

[Champane Flight]

Great engine..

The 3406 was a great truck engine, capable of tremendous upgrades, have seen them putting out over 600hp. It was also a long living engine, many cases of over a million miles on same block, over 500,000 on inframe, IF taken care of. .



DJW, jetting on gasoline engines in those days was critical. I can remember rejetting bikes between races. Believe it or not I heard at one time back in the thirtys, one of the major carbarator manufacters had a design that produced over fifty MPG out of a old flat head six banger. One of the big three bought the patent, and it promptly dissapeared... I have worked on several carbs that could return pretty awesome mileage in some engines. For instance a chrysler 440 and a 500CFM afb carter can be tuned to 20+ MPG on the highway. .

 

[tgordon]

Has anybody here ever herd of EJ Potter? He is a very interesting person if you haven't. I heard rummer he is the one who invented the carb possibly refered to by CF. If you ever get a chance to, buy his book and read it, who else would attempt to use a jet engine as a air compressor. :-laf That is no joke, a friend of mine lives about 5 miles away and was there when the were using it to blow out a irrigation well. :-laf That is only the tip of the iceburg of what he has done.

 

[jeffshafer]

If you are converting WASTE cooking oil, you (yourself) will be slightly less dependant on foreign oil. If that product was waste and was

not going to be used, and you give it a use, good for you.









Yes, there is not enough corn and soybeans in the world to support all of our driving. My hat is off to those who do use "waste" to make their little corner of the world a little greener and a little less dependant on foreign oil.



When my warranty is up, I'll be looking in to it.

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agree w/ your thoughts- too bad I got 5yrs of warranty left- looking into running homemade brew bio in my 20 yr old tractor- starting to assemble the necessary parts to make my own- will see how this goes later nexr year

 

[obert]

Believe it or not I heard at one time back in the thirtys, one of the major carbarator manufacters had a design that produced over fifty MPG out of a old flat head six banger. One of the big three bought the patent, and it promptly dissapeared...

From what I heard, you heard right. In addition to that I heard that standard oil bougt a design (if not the one above) to prevent it from going to production... . from a 35 year employee of sohio, std oil, & BP.



There's probly more than one guy that made a car that runs on water (used eletrolosis to separte H out of water into a fuel cell), but one showed up in cetral ohio, was on the news for a bit, then just faded away. Hmmm.....

 

[RCash]

Iv'e just about had enough

Ya know, a little common sense is in order here. It really does not matter a tincker's hoot one way or the other about who is wasting who's time. What matters is that if you have a disposable resource from which you can make fuel, then DO IT. It does not matter about btu output, or what takes more time or effort. If the PERSON thinks it is worth a shot... DO it.

If you have 500 McDonald's in your local area (and most of us do), go get their oil, try a Bio diesel process, and if you are satisfied, cool. If not, then you are no worse for trying.



What irritates me beyond description are the ones who poo-poo an idea without ever trying.



By far, the grandest opportunity we have as Americans is the opportunity itself. If there is a problem, find the solution. This might very well be a solution. It might not. But don't listen to the rhetorical hogwash of also-rans, or the rehashed pseudo-intellectuals who say that it can not be done. Prove it to your self.



my humble . 02

Bob

 

[J.BURCHFIELD]

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