bypass filter choices help please

[JFought]

I am in need of an oil change very very soon. I was hoping what options do i have as an alternative to the amsoil kit filter i believe (eap110 the tallest one) it is now pretty expensive.



What choices do i have for a straight screw on. ( no modification needed).



thanks

Headed to cail probably Monday next week.

 

[JFought]

06 mega 4x4

 

[steved]

As far as spin-on BYPASS filters, you have basically three choices (in my research): Amsoil, Luberfiner, and Baldwin.



I believe its the Luberfiner LF9750? Its a very big filter, probably holds over a gallon of oil by itself... when I priced them, you could only buy a "case" of filters at a time, and at nearly $100/filter... that made it unreasonable to me.



I was running a Gulf Coast Filter (paper towel roll) and recently changed to a Baldwin B50 because I got tired of changing the 1. 5 gallons of oil the GCF held. Its not rated as good as the others, but at 5u; its good enough for me. They are fairly inexpensive to set up... hoses (premade hydraulic hoses) cost me about $50, the return swivel (Amsoil) costs about $15, the other fittings cost probably $20, and the filter head cost me $25 from a Wix dealer. The B50s run $5 each. Keep in mind that the Baldwin B50s have the best filtration numbers of any of their competitor's clones (Wix, Hastings, Fram, Napa, and others offer a direct replacement for the B50), and a case of B50s is pretty cheap.



The following link is a long read, but provides a lot of insight into many types of bypass filters...



https://www.turbodieselregister.com...my-frantz-toilet-paper-bypass-oil-filter.html



I've personally ran the Be-series and EaBP-series from Amsoil, the GCF, and this B50.

 

[steved]

Upon rereading your post... what exactly are you asking about? ByPass alternatives? Filters to fit the Amsoil EaBP head?



The only alternative for the EaBP is to spin a stock Cummins filter onto the head... its no longer a bypass at that point, but would get you out of a pinch. There are no alternatives for the EaBP bypass... you are committed to using their filter.

 

[JFought]

filter alternative , other than using the stock amsoil bypass filter
it just seems that $55 per is a little high to pay, just looking for more choices. .


thanks

 

[amsoilman]

filter alternative , other than using the stock amsoil bypass filter

it just seems that $55 per is a little high to pay, just looking for more choices. .





thanks

You may be paying a higher price for the EaBP by-pass element, but if you use it in accordance with thier reccomendations, they will last much longer. Here is their reccomendations taken from their website: "When used in conjunction with AMSOIL motor oil and an AMSOIL EaO or Donaldson Endurance™ filter, the EaBP Filter should be changed every other full-flow filter change up to 60,000 miles. When used with other brands of motor oil or full-flow filters, the EaBP Filter should be changed every other full-flow filter change. AMSOIL recommends using oil analysis when extending oil drain intervals. "If used in this manner, the EaBP becomes pretty inexpensive.

 

[CKelley1]

there is a lot better and cheaper alternate than the amsoil. the filter is about $10 and on a 06 will last about 80 to 90 thousand miles between changes. the amsoil filter should not be changed until it quits flowing oil. that is the point it filters its best. the reason the lf777 is so inexpensive, that is the bypass filter used on big cummins engines and they are sold by the millions. pm me with your email if you want info and pix

 

[AH64ID]

You won't find a better spin-on filter. The amsoil is 2um absolute, most bypasses aren't anywhere near that. The Amsoil is a little more money, but they last a very long time, and filter better that just about anything that spins on, and certainly anything in their size.

pm me with your email if you want info and pix

What is your obsession with not providing answers? You tell people to PM you for the info all the time. The whole point in a forum is to provide info for everyone to see.

 

[NavyDood]

You won't find a better spin-on filter. The amsoil is 2um absolute, most bypasses aren't anywhere near that. The Amsoil is a little more money, but they last a very long time, and filter better that just about anything that spins on, and certainly anything in their size.
What is your obsession with not providing answers? You tell people to PM you for the info all the time. The whole point in a forum is to provide info for everyone to see.

Especially considering that the LF777 is only a 10um filter.

 

[AH64ID]

Especially considering that the LF777 is only a 10um filter.

My dad used to run a Luberfiner bypass on his 3406 that was 1um absolute, but the filter housing held 2+ gallons of oil. Talk about clean oil! Granted the old school 3406 (92 model) didn't have to worry about emissions and soot like a modern pickup motor, but his oil would stay honey colored for over 500 hours!



But its all about the ratings, 2um nano-fiber is pretty much the cats meow, other than a centrifuge.

 

[CKelley1]

ah64id i have not figured out how to upload pix. and i have a 06 with the luberfiner 750 on it like you mentioned. and it does work very well. luberfiner makes a modern version that only uses three quarts, look it up it's lfp9750. pm me if you want pix

 

[AH64ID]

The easiest way to post pics is to use a photo hosting site such as Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket



It appears the LFP9750 and Amsoil EaBP-120 are the same filter with different paint. So they are 2um absolute, just like the smaller EaBP filters. The only issue I see with them is that our engines are just below the minimum sump size.



I am having a hard time finding filtration specs on the 750.

 

[JFought]

okay.
(i ran amsoil and oil analysis. i did 18k on my first run of amoil oil and bypass system (amsoil bypass and the full flow filter. Blaskstone labs freaked out!! (previously anaylis was fine on rotella) they called me and told me to change it intermediately!!!!! (truck had around 40K miles at black stones time that they contacted me , 18K on amsoil, but the first 25Kish on truck was on rotolla @ 8K intervals , so i gave up on amsoil oil) and back to rottela

lately i run
10K on rotalla change the full flow with stratapore, and change the ams oil bypass filter every other oil change (have 102K on truck now)

I need to change the oil and the bypass, i am headed to cali from tx next monday, (have about 10k on the oil and 20K on bypass right now. )

but want other options then $55 (for the bypass filter) every other change(about 20K per bypass filter. )

***Should i run the bypass longer?
Empty bypass and refill and reinstall? (how many miles)
Or leave it on till it stops flowing oil, with leaving the old oil in the filter at every oil change?

I run the largest eap 110 ( the tallest filter amoil sells, takes nearly a gallon of oil)

any options/ help would be appreciated. i want protection, but just trying to be a little cost conscious.

thanks

 

[amsoilman]

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This is a view of a location for the Amsoil BMK-21 By-Pass filter. It is located just behind the left front fender on the passenger side. NOTE: The wheel well housing has been removed to show how it is mounted.

 

[amsoilman]

okay.

(i ran amsoil and oil analysis. i did 18k on my first run of amoil oil and bypass system (amsoil bypass and the full flow filter. Blaskstone labs freaked out!! (previously anaylis was fine on rotella) they called me and told me to change it intermediately!!!!! (truck had around 40K miles at black stones time that they contacted me , 18K on amsoil, but the first 25Kish on truck was on rotolla @ 8K intervals , so i gave up on amsoil oil) and back to rottela



lately i run

10K on rotalla change the full flow with stratapore, and change the ams oil bypass filter every other oil change (have 102K on truck now)



I need to change the oil and the bypass, i am headed to cali from tx next monday, (have about 10k on the oil and 20K on bypass right now. )



but want other options then $55 (for the bypass filter) every other change(about 20K per bypass filter. )



***Should i run the bypass longer?

Empty bypass and refill and reinstall? (how many miles)

Or leave it on till it stops flowing oil, with leaving the old oil in the filter at every oil change?



I run the largest eap 110 ( the tallest filter amoil sells, takes nearly a gallon of oil)



any options/ help would be appreciated. i want protection, but just trying to be a little cost conscious.



thanks

Read POST # 6 above... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..... You can go longer with the By-Pass Element.



My 03' now has 92K, and the oil is still testing very good with Viscosity still in the middle range of a 40 grade oil, and the "SOOT" is showing 0. 4 PPM. I'm using the EaBP-100 Filter.

 

[CKelley1]

j fought your oil has ten times more soot in it than amsoilman's 03 due to the in- cylinder egr used on the 04. 5 up. the oil can not suspend more than about 4% soot loading. in the 04. 5 up the soot loading becomes the deciding factor of oil change. synthetic and dino have the same capacity therefore the change interval is the same for both. go to luberfiner web sight and look at the lfp975 info it has a graph showing with and without the bypass filter of soot loading. ah64id i am going to download photobucket this morning. the reason the 9750 will not work on our truck is because the lmb451 base has too large of a orifice in the lmb451 base i make a 0. 032" orifice in the fitting i use on the stock filter. the 750 i mentioned was used on all trucks from the 1940's to the 80's it holds 10 quarts of oil. you have seen thousands of them they look like a air cleaner and on the opposite side of the air cleaner. it's orifice is also to big and it has a hole in the t handle to bleed air and provide faster warmup of oil that must be blocked off and a air relief valve added. it is very messy to change and no place to mount it. the 9750 replaced the 750. once i figure out photobucket i will post a pix of each one on 06's