Carlisle tires?

[CoastyAV8R]

We were coming back from Colorado last week in our toyhauler (weighed around 6,500 lbs) when the right front trailer tire blew so I slapped the spare on and away we went. 10 miles later, the left rear tire blew, luckily I was able to limp it off I-25 to a service station and get 3 new tires (replaced the spare as well). 100 miles later the left front tire blew. The trailer is a Work and Play toyhauler and is only 3 months old and the tires are Carlisle tires 205/75/15 load range C. The 1250 mile trip up to Colorado was uneventful except for the blow out of my right front truck tire at the top of Monarch Pass when I hit a rock from a rock slide in the road, but that's another story. The trailer was loaded the same configuration and we had no problems. I checked all the pressures in the tires (50 psi) and cannot for the life of me think of a good reason to have 3 blowouts in less than 125 miles. I was driving 65 mph so I wasn't driving fast. I wonder what the reputation of Carlisle tires are. I didn't keep any of the blowouts as I didn't think it would keep happening and once it did, I was so ****** I didn't care. Oh yeah, I also had a flat on my mountain bike and my wife got 2 flats on her dirt bike during this trip, worst tire luck I have ever had...

 

[TX Gooseneck]

We used Carlisle tires for almost 4 years and switched with in the last 6 months. To many issues with them - fast wear, leakdown problems, etc.

 

[rweis]

Alfa RV's had Carlise tires. MANY issues. Many replaced at Carlise's expense. MANY MANY issues. I would be EXTREMELY hesitant.



Bob Weis

 

[Whiskey]

We were coming back from Colorado last week in our toyhauler (weighed around 6,500 lbs) when the right front trailer tire blew so I slapped the spare on and away we went. 10 miles later, the left rear tire blew, luckily I was able to limp it off I-25 to a service station and get 3 new tires (replaced the spare as well). 100 miles later the left front tire blew. The trailer is a Work and Play toyhauler and is only 3 months old and the tires are Carlisle tires 205/75/15 load range C. The 1250 mile trip up to Colorado was uneventful except for the blow out of my right front truck tire at the top of Monarch Pass when I hit a rock from a rock slide in the road, but that's another story. The trailer was loaded the same configuration and we had no problems. I checked all the pressures in the tires (50 psi) and cannot for the life of me think of a good reason to have 3 blowouts in less than 125 miles. I was driving 65 mph so I wasn't driving fast. I wonder what the reputation of Carlisle tires are. I didn't keep any of the blowouts as I didn't think it would keep happening and once it did, I was so ****** I didn't care. Oh yeah, I also had a flat on my mountain bike and my wife got 2 flats on her dirt bike during this trip, worst tire luck I have ever had...

I had two blow outs on my Jayco Designer XL 3320 with carlisle load range c within 50 miles on I 25 , last june. Replaced all 5 tires with e range,,

Maybe it's Colorado.

whiskey

 

[ScottLewis]

Junk tires

I bought Carlisles for my RV, thinking I had found a bargain. Within 3 months or so, one had a bubble and was replaced with another Carlisle, under warranty. Less than a year later, on the way to Alaska, one blew out, destroying the fender skirt and damaging the side of the RV. Two days later another blew on the opposite side. Same kind of damage. Different brand tires were used as replacement. About 8 months down the road, this time in La. , another bubble on one of the last Carlisles on the RV. Total was 4 out of 5 Carlisles shot in less than 2 years service. I'll never have another on any of my vehicles, with the possible exception of a riding lawnmower.

 

[Buffalo]

Some of those older trailer tires had plies of polyester/steel. When they got hot, they would expand, separate and blow.

To offset this, Goodyear Marathon's started installing a ply of nylon over the tread plies of polyester & steel. It seems that the nylon does not expand when it gets hot so, it acts like a "girdle" and holds the expanding poly. /steel belts in place. Their tires seem to be more durable, than in the past. Don't hear as many complaints about tires detonating, like before.



Goodyear used to make the Carlisle's. I don't believe they do now, though. They do, however, make the Towmaster's by Greenball. They are substantially cheaper than the Marathon's. My friends, & I , all, are using the Towmaster's with no problems. I've been across the country a couple of times with them, with no problems.



Another thing we did was to upgrade the size and load range of our trailer tires. The trailers, originally, came with 205/75/15-C's. We upgraded 2 sizes to 225/75/15-D's. They are only slightly larger but, have much more load carrying capacity with higher preasure capacities.



Hope this helps.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[RottonRob]

http://www.goodsamclub.com/cforum/Index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/14262584.cfm

http://www.goodsamclub.com/cforum/Index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/14556759.cfm



check this out for Carlise tires, it is an older post.

 

[jimnance]

I've never heard anything good about Carlisle tires on any of the other RV forums. Lot's of horror stories. Marathons by Goodyear have had their share of problems too.



Best advice is get a high quality 16" tire and rim if they will fit. If not try Maxxis 8008 trailer tires. They have a 15" tire with load range D. So far, I've heard good things about them. However, a 15" tire is spinning faster and will be more sensative to speed/heat, all things eqaul, than a sixteen inch tire.



I can't fit sixteen inch tires on my fiver so I have the Maxxis tires. So far, I've had good luch with them. Two seasons and no trouble. However, when it's hot I'm very careful to keep my speed down and tire pressures at maximum.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I too had problems with an earlier set of Carlisle tires on our 24 ft 5er - but had other issues with inflation pressure and axle problems, so pretty hard to specifically fault the tires - another brand on the 5er when new had the same issues...



BUT, just last week, I needed 2 new tires on the 5er, and the heaviest available at the local Les Schwab were D rated 10 ply Carlisles - and I now have all the earlier inflation and axle issues sorted out, so we will see...



But you guys sure don't reassure me any...

 

[GAllen]

A friend has a 6 month old Tahoe toyhauler and lost two Carlisle on his last trip to Glamis. Significant trailer damage. Weekend Warrior installed Carlisle in the past, but switched to Generals as a result of many (new) failures. My two year old General's are weather checking between the tread and sidewall (prorated replacement). I have two year old Marathons on my boat that still look great. Just got back from the Colorado river (Laughlin, NV) towing through the desert, 122 deg F. No problems.

 

[FloridaEd]

First of all, most of the RV's come with tires that are marginal for the load... most of them are at or near their maximum carrying weight when you put just a little "stuff" in the RV. I can see a toy hauler being worse about overloading due to weight of the toys.



Second, unless you weigh your trailer loaded, you really don't know what the weight is... . I weighed mine at the first Flying J I hit on the Alaska trip... 18,100# GCW... 1,900# under the maximum weight.



My 32' 5'ver weighs in at 10,500#. It came with Maxxis Chinese 15" D-rated tires. I lost two tires to blowouts. After 3 years, I decided to buy 15" E-Rated tires to combat this problem. The tire guy I deal with recommended Carlisles. I told him okay, but I did not want Chinese tires. He ordered them and sure enough, the Carlisles were made in China. He sent them back and ordered Denman 15" E-rated tires, which came in and were made in Mexico. I put them on.



We just got back from Alaska..... a little over 11,000 miles towing..... lots of gravel patches and several very long gravel repair sections... . and not a single problem. My brother-in-law, who has identical rig to me, lost 2 D-rated tires to gravel roads in Alaska and put E-rated tires on his rig in Anchorage. No flats after that.



IMHO, you have to put stronger tires on RV's than what comes on them.



I have been very pleased with the Denman tires. You can put 65 -80 PSI in them, depending on the load. I run mine about 75 PSI, even though the load calls for 65 PSI... . just a little insurance.



Florida Ed

 

[GAllen]

A friend has a 6 month old Tahoe toyhauler and lost two Carlisle on his last trip to Glamis. Significant trailer damage. Weekend Warrior installed Carlisle in the past, but switched to Generals as a result of many (new) failures. My two year old General's are weather checking between the tread and sidewall (prorated replacement). I have two year old Marathons on my boat that still look great. Just got back from the Colorado river (Laughlin, NV) towing through the desert, 122 deg F. No problems.

Just an update. General tire has agreed to replace in full, all six of my tires. More interesting is that they're out nationally and authorized America's Tire Store in Long Beach, CA. to give me whatever trailer tire I want. I picked Marathons.